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MaBSTOA 15



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jackie in the driver's seat!


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 15 wrote:


Note the solid rubber tire truck on the left of the picture.


I photo shopped and brightened the image. Anyone know what that solid tired vehicle is? Looks like a rear view of a hotel hack.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the February 1969 issue of Motor Coach Age on New York City Omnibus... the following is stated on page 17...

"New York City Omnibus was unusual among large transit properties in that buses were traditionally assigned not merely to garages but actually to individual routes. In later years, the route assignments were stencilledn on the windshields. The oldest tabulation available is dated December 28. 1950, and is reproduced here (in the magazine)...

#2969 was assigned to the 100 Street Depot and to route 18, 86th Street Crosstown!

The Honeymooners did not debut till 1955. Therefore, am sure 2969 was reassigned to route 1/2 Madison Avenue out of the same depot.

The Motor Coach Age issue of May 1972 on the First 10 Years of Mabstoa lists the following routes operating out of the 100 Street Depot:

6 -72 St Crosstown; 17 -79 St Crosstown; 18 -86 St Crosstown; 19 -96 St Crosstown; 101 -Third-Lexington & Amsterdam; 101A -Third-Lexington & Lenox; 107 -106 St Crosstown

The route 2A -Fifth-Madison & Seventh Ave was now operating out of the 146 Street Depot.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 15 wrote:
According to the February 1969 issue of Motor Coach Age on New York City Omnibus... the following is stated on page 17...

"New York City Omnibus was unusual among large transit properties in that buses were traditionally assigned not merely to garages but actually to individual routes. In later years, the route assignments were stencilledn on the windshields. The oldest tabulation available is dated December 28. 1950, and is reproduced here (in the magazine)...

#2969 was assigned to the 100 Street Depot and to route 18, 86th Street Crosstown!

The Honeymooners did not debut till 1955. Therefore, am sure 2969 was reassigned to route 1/2 Madison Avenue out of the same depot.

The Motor Coach Age issue of May 1972 on the First 10 Years of Mabstoa lists the following routes operating out of the 100 Street Depot:

6 -72 St Crosstown; 17 -79 St Crosstown; 18 -86 St Crosstown; 19 -96 St Crosstown; 101 -Third-Lexington & Amsterdam; 101A -Third-Lexington & Lenox; 107 -106 St Crosstown

The route 2A -Fifth-Madison & Seventh Ave was now operating out of the 146 Street Depot.

A few points:
- The pictures of Gleason and his co-stars inside 2969 were apparently taken on Aug. 22, 1955. The bus was parked right outside the Park Sheraton (Gleason's base at the time) on 56th Street just west of Seventh Avenue.
- The 100th Street depot's route assignation list described above would have been between 1969 and 1972. As of April 1968, these routes came out of 100th:
- 6 - 72nd Street Crosstown
- 17 - 79th Street Crosstown
- 18 - 86th Street Crosstown
- 19 - 96th Street Crosstown
- 20 - 116th Street Crosstown
- 101 - Third-Lexington & Amsterdam
- 107 - 106th Street Crosstown
- TB - Triboro Bridge
The 101A first went into service March 2, 1969, as: a) a replacement/rerouting of the 2 - Fifth-Madison & Lenox Avenues line, and b) a de facto revival (albeit with major differences in its route path south of 24th Street) of the old NYCO / FACL - NYCO Division 4 - Lexington & Lenox Avenues line that ran from 1936 to 1960.

Meanwhile, 146th Street had these routes assigned as of the same 1968 period:
- 1 - Fourth & Madison
- 2 - Fifth-Madison & Lenox
- 2A - Fifth-Madison & Seventh
- 7 - Broadway-Columbus & Lenox
- 10 - Eighth Avenue-Central Park West
(TB would be reassigned to 146th in 1969 after the demise of the 2 and launch of the 101A)
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