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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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A more subtle "variation" in the GM New Looks over the years is that on some buses the "GM" letters were absent on the trapezoid; on some buses, even the trapezoid might be removed.
This was something that always puzzled me; I always wondered in GM might have cast a disgruntled eye on this removal........
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Note the New Look to the rear in this 1972 view; no GM trapezoid on the dash, nor an advertising mounting........
http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2576
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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GBL Rebel Moderator
Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 608 Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:53 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | All:
A more subtle "variation" in the GM New Looks over the years is that on some buses the "GM" letters were absent on the trapezoid; on some buses, even the trapezoid might be removed.
This was something that always puzzled me; I always wondered in GM might have cast a disgruntled eye on this removal........
"NYO" |
MTA NYCT tends to order buses minus any manufacturer badge. |
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frankie
Age: 77 Joined: 01 Feb 2011 Posts: 748 Location: St. Peters, Mo.
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | Note the New Look to the rear in this 1972 view; no GM trapezoid on the dash, nor an advertising mounting........
http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2576
(courtesy: bus.nycsubway.org) |
That's because you have a blank advertising board blocking the trapezoid. If you look closely, you can see where the board cuts the extreme right side of the headlight bezel.
Frankie |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 22675 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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frankie wrote: | NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | Note the New Look to the rear in this 1972 view; no GM trapezoid on the dash, nor an advertising mounting........
http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2576
(courtesy: bus.nycsubway.org) |
That's because you have a blank advertising board blocking the trapezoid. If you look closely, you can see where the board cuts the extreme right side of the headlight bezel.
Frankie |
You are right.......appreciate the heads up!
I had to really look close, but I did see just what you saw; I could not see that I was looking at a blank advertising panel, only what looked like a bare dash........
"NYO" |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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GBL Rebel wrote: | NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | All:
A more subtle "variation" in the GM New Looks over the years is that on some buses the "GM" letters were absent on the trapezoid; on some buses, even the trapezoid might be removed.
This was something that always puzzled me; I always wondered in GM might have cast a disgruntled eye on this removal........
"NYO" |
MTA NYCT tends to order buses minus any manufacturer badge. |
GBL Rebel:
Appreciate your input; to be honest, I never really looked at the builder's badges on any NYC buses since the long-gone days when the GRUMMANS were running side-by-side with the New Looks.........
"NYO" |
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GBL Rebel Moderator
Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 608 Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:33 am Post subject: |
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If it wasn't for Suffolk County buses, I wouldn't know what the last Orion emblem looked like. Keep in mind I work with Orion's daily. |
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frankie
Age: 77 Joined: 01 Feb 2011 Posts: 748 Location: St. Peters, Mo.
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | GBL Rebel wrote: | NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | All:
A more subtle "variation" in the GM New Looks over the years is that on some buses the "GM" letters were absent on the trapezoid; on some buses, even the trapezoid might be removed.
This was something that always puzzled me; I always wondered in GM might have cast a disgruntled eye on this removal........
"NYO" |
MTA NYCT tends to order buses minus any manufacturer badge. |
GBL Rebel:
Appreciate your input; to be honest, I never really looked at the builder's badges on any NYC buses since the long-gone days when the GRUMMANS were running side-by-side with the New Looks.........
"NYO" |
In reality, all GM new looks came with builder's badges and it was up to the transit companies to remove them as they seemed fit.
Today, most builders have their name either embossed or debossed into the bus panel itself - almost indistinguishable since they're the same color as the panel.
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 22675 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:03 am Post subject: |
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frankie wrote: | NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | GBL Rebel wrote: | NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | All:
A more subtle "variation" in the GM New Looks over the years is that on some buses the "GM" letters were absent on the trapezoid; on some buses, even the trapezoid might be removed.
This was something that always puzzled me; I always wondered in GM might have cast a disgruntled eye on this removal........
"NYO" |
MTA NYCT tends to order buses minus any manufacturer badge. |
GBL Rebel:
Appreciate your input; to be honest, I never really looked at the builder's badges on any NYC buses since the long-gone days when the GRUMMANS were running side-by-side with the New Looks.........
"NYO" |
In reality, all GM New Looks came with builder's badges and it was up to the transit companies to remove them as they seemed fit.
Today, most builders have their name either embossed or debossed into the bus panel itself - almost indistinguishable since they're the same color as the panel.
Frankie |
I did not know this......appreciate your sharing here.
To this day, I truly believe that the New Look "GM" trapezoid is still an easily recognizeable trademark, not only in the transit sector, but also in American Industrial History.
The New Looks were buses that indeed were timeless in design; they looked every bit at home in the 1980's and 1990's as they did in the 1960's and 1970's......I'll never stop missing them....but sure am glad I rode them as much as I did.......
"NYO" |
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2423 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:32 am Post subject: |
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frankie wrote: | NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | Note the New Look to the rear in this 1972 view; no GM trapezoid on the dash, nor an advertising mounting........
http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2576
(courtesy: bus.nycsubway.org) |
That's because you have a blank advertising board blocking the trapezoid. If you look closely, you can see where the board cuts the extreme right side of the headlight bezel.
Frankie |
Is the confusion on that the reason why, on such front ad racks, the 'M' sticker was put on them later in the '70's after the buses were repainted in two-tone blue? |
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