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Canadian New Look GMC's in New York
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traildriver




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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GBL Rebel wrote:
Traildriver,

Send me the photos and i will do my best to get them posted. gblrebel@hotmail.com


On the way! Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
These days, both here and abroad, modern buses (and light rail units) are looking more and more like shoe boxes and/or giant mutated caterpillars/eels than buses. Shocked

I was gonna have made the comparison of today's buses in their appearance to milk cartons. I remember back in school days old milk cartons were actually used by students to make replicas of buses. Wonder how many of those grew up to be in charge of, or at least be involved in, current bus design.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B. Fishbowl wrote:
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
These days, both here and abroad, modern buses (and light rail units) are looking more and more like shoe boxes and/or giant mutated caterpillars/eels than buses. Shocked

I was gonna have made the comparison of today's buses in their appearance to milk cartons. I remember back in school days old milk cartons were actually used by students to make replicas of buses. Wonder how many of those grew up to be in charge of, or at least be involved in, current bus design.


W.B.:

You are RIGHT!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

The newest buses I CANNOT stand are the ones that imitate Light Rail unit styling, and end up looking like a giant insect larvae.....COMPLETE with ANNTENAES!!!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

I have seen some pics showing the newest artics in some cities that make me want to grab the RAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

The New Look, though startling and modernistic when it debuted in 1959, was ATTRACTIVE and STYLISH and MODERN and did NOT look like a giant shoe box or a people-hungry mutated insect!! Shocked Shocked

Ahhh, take me back to 1962.......... Rolling Eyes

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Located at Academy in N.J. Compliments of Traildriver.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://bustalk.info/forum/files/img_0781jpg_612.jpeg

Thanks for finding a way to post it, GBL Rebel...

Just to clarify, it is not in Hoboken, but at the Academy (former Body-Rite) garage in Secaucus, next to Peter Pan's garage....
I was there again today, but was in a rush to pick up another bus to bring back to The City....
I'll try to find out more about it next chance I get....

If you click on my link, you will not have to turn sideways to view the bus... Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver wrote:
http://bustalk.info/forum/files/img_0781jpg_612.jpeg

Thanks for finding a way to post it, GBL Rebel...

Just to clarify, it is not in Hoboken, but at the Academy (former Body-Rite) garage in Secaucus, next to Peter Pan's garage....
I was there again today, but was in a rush to pick up another bus to bring back to The City....
I'll try to find out more about it next chance I get....

If you click on my link, you will not have to turn sideways to view the bus... Wink


traildriver:

Back in the late 70's I photographed various relics and antiques (some still in service, others waiting to be scrapped, or to be used as spare parts) at this same yard (Hoboken)

Sadly, I have no scanner to share these old photos here Sad

There were several "Baby" Old Looks that had metal "SCHOOL BUS" signs displayed on their rears, also, they were equipped with school blinkers (one was was numbered #26)

There's also one photo showing a gutted New Look (cannot tell what company once rostered it), with a lopsided SOMERSET Old Look just behind.

Also, a WASHINGTON ST. Old Look (#29-X)

Another bus I snapped was an ex-PSNJ Old Look (a 4512?) that was clearly OOS; it was still painted in PS's two-tone green.

I'd giving anything to see these old relics again.......hard to believe these photos are now about 40 years old.......

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Queens Transit/Queens Surface had a New Look bus with square windows.
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 15 wrote:
Queens Transit/Queens Surface had a New Look bus with square windows.


An "indy" operator on the old NHBL #1 (JSQ-Nungessers) had such a coach back in the early/mid- 90's; I rode it several times, but never got to take any pictures.

Who actually owned it and when/why the bus was rebuilt with square windows is still a mystery to me today.........

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In 1984 NYBS received 3 GM Classics, numbered 1600-1602. These were basically the late version of the Fishbowl. I remember a picture of a body with the other nose.
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYBS..............

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3362

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1542

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3452

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3450

(courtesy: bus.nycsubway.org)

* tried to locate a pic showing the NYBS coaches GBL Rebel mentioned, but could not locate any

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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
NYBS.........

* tried to locate a pic showing the NYBS coaches GBL Rebel mentioned, but could not locate any

"NYO"

1984 GMDD Classic NYBS 1600
http://gallery.bustalk.info/displayimage.php?album=59&pos=70

The wild part about this 3 bus order was they all had different engines. I believe 1600 had the DD 6V92TA, 1601 had the DD 6V71TA and 1602 had the DD 6V71. If I am wrong, then 1602 had the 92 and 1600 had the 71.

As you can see, built by GMDD before the design was sold to MCI, which built the 1988 and 1989 Classics for NYCDOT. You absolutely could see the difference in quality.
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GBL:

Appreciate the NYBS gallery.......thanks! Wink

Regarding the Classics, I always wondered why NJT never was interested in the type; these were certainly not "Jersey Buses", and looked quite exotic to me when I saw them on the streets when I was working in Manhattan, years ago........

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See also:

https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Classic
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
GBL:

Appreciate the NYBS gallery.......thanks! Wink

Regarding the Classics, I always wondered why NJT never was interested in the type; these were certainly not "Jersey Buses", and looked quite exotic to me when I saw them on the streets when I was working in Manhattan, years ago........

"NYO"


A good question, indeed, NYO.....

In my mind, the GMC 'Suburban' type buses, from the Old Look's to the New Look's, epitomized "New Joisey", like no other bus...
One would think that GM built this model to Public Service Coordinated Transport specs, and then made them available to any other property in New Jersey, or elsewhere that desired this type for its specific mission....

It was only when the 'Buffalo' type parlor, the PD-4903 40 footer came out, that commuter bus companies started abandoning the Suburban in favor of the parlor coach...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

Agreed!

Those GM Old and New Look suburbans were INDEED "Joisey Buses"! Wink

I recall thinking the new NJT RTS were quite "exotic" when they started arriving in 1997; I had ridden then on the MBTA in Boston.

Today, NJT's RTS/NOVA coaches are gone, as are the once-commonplace METROs.

NJT's EAGLES seemed to disappear almost overnight; I had planned to ride one some day, but never got around to doing so. Sad

IMHO, I don't think they were all that popular with NJT; they didn't seem to last all that long in service.......

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