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Canadian New Look GMC's in New York
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frankie



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYO: It's been a proven fact with almost anything that when you make improvements internally without touching the essential external components, your going to obtain longevity.

You're case in point is well taken. Both the old looks and new looks are indeed the best buses built for both performance, endurance and longevity.

This is another reason the VW Beetle lasted as long as it did. Same body shape from beginning to end, but almost nothing in common elsewhere.

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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

frankie wrote:
NYO: It's been a proven fact with almost anything that when you make improvements internally without touching the essential external components, your going to obtain longevity.

You're case in point is well taken. Both the old looks and new looks are indeed the best buses built for both performance, endurance and longevity.

This is another reason the VW Beetle lasted as long as it did. Same body shape from beginning to end, but almost nothing in common elsewhere.

Frankie


Agreed 100%! Very Happy

Recall, also, that the Old Looks and New Looks were designed with the RIDING PUBLIC in mind; also, they were designed at a time where calipers and slide rules were being used to design buses (and other vehicles), with no electronic/computerized aid whatsoever.

The Old Looks and the New Looks were both sturdy, well-constructed, no-nonsense transit vehicles, and, it is indeed small wonder that these rugged coaches lasted as long as they did (both in production and in regular service)

GMC was indeed the undisputed KING in the bus-building industry, back in the day......... Wink

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
traildriver:

Sure hope you can snap a pic showing this Classic All American Workhorse! Wink

What was the bus doing there?

Sure hope to see this old relic! Very Happy

"NYO"


Sorry, I couldn't get over there today....perhaps tomorrow...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver wrote:
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
traildriver:

Sure hope you can snap a pic showing this Classic All American Workhorse! Wink

What was the bus doing there?

Sure hope to see this old relic! Very Happy

"NYO"


Sorry, I couldn't get over there today....perhaps tomorrow...


Good enough!

I know it'll be MORE than worth the wait! Wink

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting page on Canadian (and domestic) New Looks.....

https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/New_Look
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sidenote:

New Looks were quite popular with Japanese toy makers back in the 60's (both tin and plastic)....I can certainly attest to that! Wink

Rarest (and most pricey!) are two LARGE tin litho New looks in 5th AVENUE COACH and D.C. TRANSIT liveries......I have seen these two stunning toy buses on eBay once or twice and they are ASTRONOMICAL in price (!!) Shocked Shocked

Would I love to see either (or both) in mu collection today......ahhh, perchance to dream.......... Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I managed to swing by the Academy facility at Secaucus, and took a couple of photo's, of the blue and white bus, that said "ilgrian church" on its side...the bus was parked close between two other buses, so I could not get very good shots of it, but did get a couple. The bus was in only fair shape, cosmetically, with rust showing...I did not have the time to inquire about it with anyone, as I was in a rush to bring a bus back to The Port...

I have the pictures on my i phone, and do not know how to post them here, but if you give me your email address, I will be happy to send them to you to post here, if able....
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

I know whatever pictures you took will be WELL worth viewing! Very Happy

Really miss those old "Jetson-eque" workhorses!

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just took another look at the photo, and was surprised to see that the side windows were modified, to eliminate the 'slant'...they look more like the ones on the Classic....

If anyone wants to see them, send me your email...
or explain how I can get them from my phone to this site....
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver wrote:
I just took another look at the photo, and was surprised to see that the side windows were modified, to eliminate the 'slant'...they look more like the ones on the Classic....

If anyone wants to see them, send me your email...
or explain how I can get them from my phone to this site....


traildriver:

Somewhere on the board, I had a thread ages ago about "square window New Looks"; I recall one that operated on the old NHBL #1 line (JSQ-Nungessers) back in the 90's.

This was clearly a "remodeled" bus and QUITE interesting! (never got around to taking any pictures, though!) Confused

At least I DID ride it, several times!

This is now going back at least 20 or more years, now........ .....

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver wrote:
I just took another look at the photo, and was surprised to see that the side windows were modified, to eliminate the 'slant'...they look more like the ones on the Classic....

If anyone wants to see them, send me your email...
or explain how I can get them from my phone to this site....


Finally got your address and sent them your way...
if you know how, kindly post them here for all to see....someone might recognize it and know details.....
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver wrote:
traildriver wrote:
I just took another look at the photo, and was surprised to see that the side windows were modified, to eliminate the 'slant'...they look more like the ones on the Classic....

If anyone wants to see them, send me your email...
or explain how I can get them from my phone to this site....


Finally got your address and sent them your way...
if you know how, kindly post them here for all to see....someone might recognize it and know details.....


traildriver:

I DID receive the photos.......and THANK YOU!!! Wink

(Sadly, I cannot post them here, as I am QUITE computer illiterate, and have not the slightest idea on how to post them here) Sad

Seems all the classic old workhorse needs is some TLC.......too bad modern buses cannot have that same sleek and timeless design! Rolling Eyes

It would be interesting indeed to learn about this classic bus and its "ancestry"....... Wink

THANKS AGAIN! Very Happy

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
traildriver wrote:
traildriver wrote:
I just took another look at the photo, and was surprised to see that the side windows were modified, to eliminate the 'slant'...they look more like the ones on the Classic....

If anyone wants to see them, send me your email...
or explain how I can get them from my phone to this site....


Finally got your address and sent them your way...
if you know how, kindly post them here for all to see....someone might recognize it and know details.....


traildriver:

I DID receive the photos.......and THANK YOU!!! Wink

(Sadly, I cannot post them here, as I am QUITE computer illiterate, and have not the slightest idea on how to post them here) Sad

Seems all the classic old workhorse needs is some TLC.......too bad modern buses cannot have that same sleek and timeless design! Rolling Eyes

It would be interesting indeed to learn about this classic bus and its "ancestry"....... Wink

THANKS AGAIN! Very Happy

"NYO"


You are quite welcome, NYO, I am somewhat computer illiterate, as well.. Wink

If you zoom in, you can see a lot of corrosion, so not sure how sound the coach is...

And yes, I agree with your assessment of modern vs classic vehicle design...
where are Raymond Loewy, Harley Earl, Bill Mitchell, and the other vehicle designers from 'the greatest generation', when we need them? Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

These days, both here and abroad, modern buses (and light rail units) are looking more and more like shoe boxes and/or giant mutated caterpillars/eels than buses. Shocked

Today, where the type remains in service, the RTS is now a "classic" in its own right, recalling a design that now goes back nearly 40 years.

The "New Look" in the 2000's, I guess!

In my younger days, I never thought there could ever be a more modern bus than the New Look.....ahhhhh, youth's innocence......... Rolling Eyes

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Traildriver,

Send me the photos and i will do my best to get them posted. gblrebel@hotmail.com
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