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Some Oddball One of a Kind Buses

 
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Dieseljim
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:22 pm    Post subject: Some Oddball One of a Kind Buses Reply with quote

If anyone has the photo gallery of Trailways buses, chances are they will find at least one example of a one of a kind bus in it. No doubt many of you are familiar with the GMC PD4501 Scenicruiser built for Grayhound. ACF-Brill built a prototype of a bus that was build along the same deck and a half concept, and which, unlike the Scenic, was gasolline powered as a lot of ACF's were and Continental Trailways was going to order 450 copies if the bus proved successful, which it was not. Another oddball bus was a Twin Coach/Fageol over the road bus using the International Red Diamond Engine and had the familiar six piece windshield so characteristic of Twin Coach transit buses. Then there was that prototype of a new highway cruiser that GMC built before they got out of the transit and highway bus business altogether. Perhaps if GMC had stayed in the bus business, they would not be on the brink of collapse.
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HwyHaulier




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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Some Oddball One of a Kind Buses Reply with quote

Dieseljim -
Dieseljim wrote:
...ACF-Brill built a prototype of a bus that was build along the same deck and a half concept, and which, unlike the Scenic, was gasolline powered as a lot of ACF's were and Continental Trailways was going to order 450 copies if the bus proved successful, which it was not...

Note the ACF-Brill well predated the Raymond Loewy designed Scenicruiser, too. IMHO, the gasoline prime mover was likely the Achilles Heel of the
ACF-Brill design. In those bad, old days, Diesel fuel usually priced well under gasoline...

BTW. The Scenicruiser was hardly original work. Greyhound System member, North Coast Lines had ten, remarkably similar "deck and a half" units in
its Kenworth KHO types, 1934.

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...Then there was that prototype of a new highway cruiser that GMC built before they got out of the transit and highway bus business altogether. Perhaps if GMC had stayed in the bus business, they would not be on the brink of collapse...

A stretch? IMHO, GMC exited the bus business, as they became quite disgusted that it could no longer build according to its own tested rules
and practices. There must have been folks at Pontiac who seethed in outrage that external, self appointed experts deigned to tell them how
to build a bus! (IMHO, the marvelous act of the TDH-5105/ 5106 has not been eclipsed since...

......................Vern................
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TheDriver




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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I'm sure that politics entered into this
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