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fishbowl
Age: 76 Joined: 01 Sep 2010 Posts: 62 Location: Detroit
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:20 pm Post subject: Detroit DDOT rolls out new Gilligs |
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From what I understand, Detroit has received 14 (or 15, depending on the source you read) new Gillig buses (the first of 46), waiting to be put into service since January 30. The Gilligs begin to roll out next week, with drivers currently training in them.
These federally-funded buses will begin running at a time when Detroit, which has been struggling with serious service interruptions and delays, is looking to cut overnight runs, shorten routes, and increase interval times between buses.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/22/ron-freeland-to-head-ddot-new-detroit-buses_n_1294121.html
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/detroit-mayor-to-introduce-new-ddot-leader,-buses-on-wednesday-20120222
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/14-new-ddot-buses-sitting-idle-in-shop-20120214-ms |
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JimmiB
Age: 81 Joined: 19 Apr 2011 Posts: 516 Location: Lebanon, PA
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:59 am Post subject: |
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OK, so if I read this right, Mayor Bing named Freeland as CEO of DDOT, whose bus operations were outsourced to a management company which sub-contracted to Envisurage, who is actually Freeland's employer.
Yep, sounds like a government operation.
Anyhow, glad to see that Detroit is getting some new buses. |
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RailBus63 Moderator
Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 1063
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:45 am Post subject: |
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This is going to be the ultimate test of the sturdiness of the Gillig low-floor bus.
JimmiB wrote: | OK, so if I read this right, Mayor Bing named Freeland as CEO of DDOT, whose bus operations were outsourced to a management company which sub-contracted to Envisurage, who is actually Freeland's employer.
Yep, sounds like a government operation.
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It can't be any worse than it's been. Freeland also comes to the job with extensive experience in transit administration. Dave Bing seems to be trying to do the right thing in some pretty difficult circumstances, so I wish them well. |
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HwyHaulier
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 932 Location: Harford County, MD
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:18 am Post subject: |
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RailBus63 - JimmiB - All -
This "ultimate test" of coach sturdiness and integrity? How did Baltimore ever get left off this "Top Ten" list?
JimmiB: So you are somewhat doubtful of current day mode of "public" (taxpayer) operations? Just brokers on top of brokers,
all getting pieces of the pie (and increasing expenses of delivered products). Very much resembles many of the present day,
"playing with trains" boondoggles. (I can think of some truly classics!)...
....................Vern.................... |
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RailBus63 Moderator
Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 1063
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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HwyHaulier wrote: |
This "ultimate test" of coach sturdiness and integrity? How did Baltimore ever get left off this "Top Ten" list?
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I was referring to an ultimate test for the Gillig bus, which the MTA in Baltimore has not purchased (yet). |
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JimmiB
Age: 81 Joined: 19 Apr 2011 Posts: 516 Location: Lebanon, PA
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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RailBus63 wrote: | HwyHaulier wrote: |
This "ultimate test" of coach sturdiness and integrity? How did Baltimore ever get left off this "Top Ten" list?
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I was referring to an ultimate test for the Gillig bus, which the MTA in Baltimore has not purchased (yet). |
I remember about 20 years ago looking over a nicely restored ex Baltimore 4512. I asked the owner why there was a big panel of plexiglas screwed to the outside of the rear window openings. He explained that the "school kids" had a habit of kicking out the rear glass. This was easier than replacing the glass all the time. |
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HwyHaulier
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 932 Location: Harford County, MD
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:10 am Post subject: |
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RailBus63 wrote: | ...I was referring to an ultimate test for the Gillig bus, which the MTA in Baltimore has not purchased (yet)... |
RailBus63 -
Oh, sure! Your message plainly written and understood. My point is the Baltimore City streets and roads can be quite daunting and difficult on
any equipment. The conditions result from known and chronic under funding requisite upkeep and repair of the highway system. How well any
possible, future Gillig coaches could deal with it?...
The State Legislature presently in session. One of the agenda items is a marvelous "shoulda', coulda'" donnybrook of the "Transportation Fund"
business. The City roads and streets speak for themselves. In past practice and experience, more than a match for varied rolling stock, whether
transit, or any other vehicles...
...........................Vern....................... |
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