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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall
Joined: 29 Nov 2007
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Location: Suffolk County, NY
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| B53RICH wrote: | | ST 2001 was disabled with flashing lights this afternoon on the LIE HOV shoulder W/B just before Wicks Rd. Looked to me that the front of the bus was lower than the rear. |
Those 20xx buses seem to like to break down in the HOV lane don't they?
I wonder if those buses can kneel like the rest of the buses. |
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Jimbo
Age: 73
Joined: 13 Apr 2010
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Location: Greenport, NY
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Those 20xx buses seem to like to break down in the HOV lane don't they?
I wonder if those buses can kneel like the rest of the buses. |
Yes, they have the kneeling feature. |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall
Joined: 29 Nov 2007
Posts: 1757
Location: Suffolk County, NY
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Jimbo wrote: | | Quote: | Those 20xx buses seem to like to break down in the HOV lane don't they?
I wonder if those buses can kneel like the rest of the buses. |
Yes, they have the kneeling feature. |
Ok, then assuming that it didn't have some type of front end failure, then maybe the bus was in the kneeling when B53RICH saw it. |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall
Joined: 29 Nov 2007
Posts: 1757
Location: Suffolk County, NY
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I heard that 1033 broke down again late in the day the other afternoon. Its like the second or third time thats happen. I believe thats the most break down prone Orion VII SBC has. |
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B53RICH
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| Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Now it was 2005's turn to break down this afternoon. I spotted it on the right shoulder E/B LIE just before Exit 57. The rear engine door was open and a maintainance vehicle in front of it. |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall
Joined: 29 Nov 2007
Posts: 1757
Location: Suffolk County, NY
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| Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| B53RICH wrote: | | Now it was 2005's turn to break down this afternoon. I spotted it on the right shoulder E/B LIE just before Exit 57. The rear engine door was open and a maintainance vehicle in front of it. |
Maybe the break downs on the 20xx's is the reason that 9908 was seen on the S58 yesterday. |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall
Joined: 29 Nov 2007
Posts: 1757
Location: Suffolk County, NY
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| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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As Of 11/30/11
The Numbers in Brackets are the number of buses in that fleet the company has, Numbers in Brackets next to each company is how many buses they have in total
^ means that summer routes were not included in total for buses needed
* 5006 was in an accident and is OOS unless stated otherwise.
Suffolk Bus Corp (53 buses total)
Ronkonkoma Yard (26 total- 20 buses needed weekday, 16 buses needed Saturday)
Routes: S59,S61,S66,S68,6A,6B,7A,7B,7D/E
1999 Orion 05.503: 9929,9932-9933,9935,9939-9940 (6)
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5011-5016 (6)
2010 Orion 07.502: 1031-1038 (8 )
2010 Orion 07.503: 1066-1071 (6)
Bay Shore Yard (27 total- 21 buses needed weekday/22 buses needed Summer weekdays, 17 buses needed Saturday/19 buses needed Summer Saturdays, 2 buses needed Summer Sundays)
Routes: S40,S41,S42,S45,S47(Summer Only),3A,3B,3C,3D
1999 Orion 05.504: 9920,9923,9928 (3)
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5001-5005,5007-5010 (9)
2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1016-1030 (15)
C.B.S. Lines, Inc (29 total- 20 buses needed weekday, 15 needed Saturday)
Routes: S56,S58,S60,S62,S69(Night Loop),S71,S76,S110,5A
1999 Orion 05.504: 9908 (1)
2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2000-2002,2004-2005 (5)
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5057-5059,5071-5081 (14)
2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1057-1063 (7)
2010 Orion 07.503 30ft: 1072-1073 (2)
Inter-County Motor Coach (36 total- 27 buses needed weekday, 21 buses needed Saturday)
Routes: S23,S25,S27,S29,S33,S35,S54,S57,S63,2A,2B
1999 Orion 05.504: 9913,9915,9918 (3)
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5021-5034,5053 (15)
2010 Orion 07.501 40ft: 1001-1002 (2)
2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1041-1056 (16)
EBT Inc (18 total- 13 buses needed weekday, 6 buses needed Saturday)
Routes: S1,S20,S31,1A,1B
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5051-5052,5055-5056,5060 (5)
2008 Gillig Advantage BRT Low Floor: 8001-8004 (4)
2010 Orion 07.501 40ft: 1003-1009 (7)
2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1039-1040 (2)
Sunrise Coaches Inc. (18 total- 14 buses needed weekday, 13 needed Saturday, 6 needed Sunday)
Routes: S92,8A,10D/E
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5054,5091-5096 (7)
2010 Orion 07.501 40ft: 1010-1015 (6)
2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1065 (1)
2010 Orion 07.503 30ft: 1078-1081 (4)
Hampton Jitney (7 total- 4 buses needed weekday and Saturday/ 5 buses needed Summer weekday and Saturday, 1 needed Sunday)
Routes: S90,S94(Summer Only),10A,10B,10C
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5041-5042 (2)
2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1064 (1)
2010 Orion 07.503 30ft: 1074-1077 (4)
Total number of Suffolk Transit Buses: 162
Official Retired List
1981 New Flyer D901A-10235C: 108-115,119-120,550-557,800-806 (25)
1982 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5-13,(5,118-125),7-13,126-127, 209,558-562,815-820 (29)
1982 Chance RT-50: 1-4,4-6,20-22,113-117,121-124,210-214,807-814,810-812 (35)
1987 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 701-702,8703-8704,710-711*,8720-8733, 740-742,750-760 (34)
1988 Chance RT-50: 300-303,320-321,340-341,350-352,880-884 (16)
1991 Gillig Phantom 40TB102: 9100,910-917 (9)
1991 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 9101-9108,920,930-934,940-941 (16)
1993 Flexible Metro D 30096: 9301-9303,9311-9316,9321-9326,9331-9342 (27)
1996 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 9600-9620,9630-9636,9641-9655,9660-9661 (45)
1997 Gillig Phantom 30TB96: 9701-9702,9711-9714,9721-9726,9731-9734 (16)
1999 Orion 05.503: 9901-9907,9909-9912,9914,9916-9917,9919,9921-9922,9924-9927,9930-9931,9934,9936-9938,9941-9942 (29)
2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2003 (1)
Total Number of Retired Suffolk Transit Buses: 282
an * next to anything BEFORE 1993 means that the bus is retired but it is not known where the bus spent its active life. |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall
Joined: 29 Nov 2007
Posts: 1757
Location: Suffolk County, NY
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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I've been working on it for a while now, with help from friends, and from what people post here and else were, as well as my own sightings and from photos and videos that people post. It's a list of all the buses run on any route, Some of course aren't 100% accurate because of the lack of records, I also should say that these are buses Suffolk County brought and not any buses that the private companies owned before the County took over transit operations.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqqajQX0sAerdEVkMGVEM1hkeTA4YXNLcFA1eHQyYnc
If you have seen buses on a route, or seen a picture/video of a bus on a route that aren't mentioned please let me know and I'll add them. |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall
Joined: 29 Nov 2007
Posts: 1757
Location: Suffolk County, NY
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Has anyone seen 9940, it was first believed to be used on the S61 and 7B back in March but it turns out that the person who though he saw it doesn't have any record of seeing it (he records the bus number of all buses he sees and what route he saw it on, he helped me with most of my records in the post above). He is checking his records to see if he saw that bus on those routes in last October, which means that bus may have been retired.
Anyway has anyone seen 9940 on any of Suffolk Bus Corps routes with in the last year? |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall
Joined: 29 Nov 2007
Posts: 1757
Location: Suffolk County, NY
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As Of 12/19/11
The Numbers in Brackets are the number of buses in that fleet the company has, Numbers in Brackets next to each company is how many buses they have in total
^ means that summer routes were not included in total for buses needed
* 5006 was in an accident and is OOS unless stated otherwise, As of now it is unclear if 9940 is still around since it hasn't been seen in over a year.
Suffolk Bus Corp (52 buses total)
Ronkonkoma Yard (24 total- 20 buses needed weekday, 16 buses needed Saturday)
Routes: S59,S61,S66,S68,6A,6B,7A,7B,7D/E
1999 Orion 05.503: 9932-9933,9935,9939 (4)
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5011-5016 (6)
2010 Orion 07.502: 1031-1038 (8 )
2010 Orion 07.503: 1066-1071 (6)
Bay Shore Yard (28 total- 21 buses needed weekday/22 buses needed Summer weekdays, 17 buses needed Saturday/19 buses needed Summer Saturdays, 2 buses needed Summer Sundays)
Routes: S40,S41,S42,S45,S47(Summer Only),3A,3B,3C,3D
1999 Orion 05.504: 9920,9923,9928-9929 (4)
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5001-5005,5007-5010 (9)
2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1016-1030 (15)
C.B.S. Lines, Inc (29 total- 20 buses needed weekday, 15 needed Saturday)
Routes: S56,S58,S60,S62,S69(Night Loop),S71,S76,S110,5A
1999 Orion 05.504: 9908 (1)
2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2000-2002,2004-2005 (5)
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5057-5059,5071-5081 (14)
2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1057-1063 (7)
2010 Orion 07.503 30ft: 1072-1073 (2)
Inter-County Motor Coach (36 total- 27 buses needed weekday, 21 buses needed Saturday)
Routes: S23,S25,S27,S29,S33,S35,S54,S57,S63,2A,2B
1999 Orion 05.504: 9913,9915,9918 (3)
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5021-5034,5053 (15)
2010 Orion 07.501 40ft: 1001-1002 (2)
2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1041-1056 (16)
EBT Inc (18 total- 13 buses needed weekday, 6 buses needed Saturday)
Routes: S1,S20,S31,1A,1B
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5051-5052,5055-5056,5060 (5)
2008 Gillig Advantage BRT Low Floor: 8001-8004 (4)
2010 Orion 07.501 40ft: 1003-1009 (7)
2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1039-1040 (2)
Sunrise Coaches Inc. (18 total- 14 buses needed weekday, 13 needed Saturday, 6 needed Sunday)
Routes: S92,8A,10D/E
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5054,5091-5096 (7)
2010 Orion 07.501 40ft: 1010-1015 (6)
2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1065 (1)
2010 Orion 07.503 30ft: 1078-1081 (4)
Hampton Jitney (7 total- 4 buses needed weekday and Saturday/ 5 buses needed Summer weekday and Saturday, 1 needed Sunday)
Routes: S90,S94(Summer Only),10A,10B,10C
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5041-5042 (2)
2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1064 (1)
2010 Orion 07.503 30ft: 1074-1077 (4)
Total number of Suffolk Transit Buses: 161
Official Retired List
1981 New Flyer D901A-10235C: 108-115,119-120,550-557,800-806 (25)
1982 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5-13,(5,118-125),7-13,126-127, 209,558-562,815-820 (29)
1982 Chance RT-50: 1-4,4-6,20-22,113-117,121-124,210-214,807-814,810-812 (35)
1987 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 701-702,8703-8704,710-711*,8720-8733, 740-742,750-760 (34)
1988 Chance RT-50: 300-303,320-321,340-341,350-352,880-884 (16)
1991 Gillig Phantom 40TB102: 9100,910-917 (9)
1991 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 9101-9108,920,930-934,940-941 (16)
1993 Flexible Metro D 30096: 9301-9303,9311-9316,9321-9326,9331-9342 (27)
1996 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 9600-9620,9630-9636,9641-9655,9660-9661 (45)
1997 Gillig Phantom 30TB96: 9701-9702,9711-9714,9721-9726,9731-9734 (16)
1999 Orion 05.503: 9901-9907,9909-9912,9914,9916-9917,9919,9921-9922,9924-9927,9930-9931,9934,9936-9938,9941-9942 (29)
2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2003 (1)
Total Number of Retired Suffolk Transit Buses: 282 |
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andrethebusman
Age: 70
Joined: 27 Dec 2011
Posts: 21
Location: Chicago IL
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject: Suffolk Chances, etc. |
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Let me add some additional info on Suffolk's 1982 Chance RT50's that I got from ST many years ago. First of all, there were 37, not 35. This is what I have on their renumberings:
EBT 1-4:
1,2,3 no changes
4 to Hampton Jitney 4
Coram 4-6:
4 to CBS 1904
5 to CBS 1905
6 to CBS 1906
Hampton Jitney 20-22:
20,21 no changes
22 to Sunrise 122 (2nd) to Suffolk 822
Alert 113-117:
113-117 to Suffolk 823-827
Sunrise 121-124:
121 to Suffolk 821
122 r# 128
123,124 no changes
Fuoco 209-213:
209 r# 214 to Suffolk 831 r# 8231
210-213 to Suffolk 832-835
Suffolk 807-814:
807 burned 1/16/86
808-812 no changes
813 r# 8213
814 no changes
Inter County 810-812, 814-815
810 no changes
811 to Coram 8? to CBS 1908
812 no changes
814 to Coram 7? to CBS 1907
815 no changes
Here is what I have on the 81 Flyers:
Suffolk 800-806:
800-802 burn 1/16/86
803-806 to CBS 1955,1954,1956,1957
Inter County 550-557:
no changes
Alert 109-111:
109-111 to ICMC 623,624,622
Blue 112 to Coram 112 to CBS 1950
Coram 113-115 to CBS 1951-1953
Fuoco 108 to CBS 1958
Sunrise 119-120 to Coram 119-120 then CBS 1960,1959
Finally the 82 Gilligs:
ICMC 815-819 r# 558-562, to EBT 558-562
Bornscheurer 5 to EBT 5 to Suffolk 885 r# 8285
Coram 7-13:
7 no changes
8 to Suffolk 842 r# 8242
9-10 to Suffolk 803-804 then CBS 1910-1911
11-13 to Suffolk 843-845 r# 8243-8245
Suffolk 815-820:
815-817 r# 8215-8217
818 burn 1/16/86
819-820 r# 8219-8220
Alert 118-125:
118 to EBT 6 to ICMC 625 to CBS 1914
119-120 to EBT 9,12 to Suffolk 886-887 r# 8286-8287
121-122 to EBT 11,7
123 to EBT 8 to CBS 1913
124 to EBT 10
125 to EBT 13 to CBS 1912
Sunrise 125-127 no changes
Fuoco 215 r# 209 (2nd) to Suffolk 839 r# 8239 |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall
Joined: 29 Nov 2007
Posts: 1757
Location: Suffolk County, NY
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:05 am Post subject: Re: Suffolk Chances, etc. |
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| andrethebusman wrote: | Let me add some additional info on Suffolk's 1982 Chance RT50's that I got from ST many years ago. First of all, there were 37, not 35. This is what I have on their renumberings:
EBT 1-4:
1,2,3 no changes
4 to Hampton Jitney 4
Coram 4-6:
4 to CBS 1904
5 to CBS 1905
6 to CBS 1906
Hampton Jitney 20-22:
20,21 no changes
22 to Sunrise 122 (2nd) to Suffolk 822
Alert 113-117:
113-117 to Suffolk 823-827
Sunrise 121-124:
121 to Suffolk 821
122 r# 128
123,124 no changes
Fuoco 209-213:
209 r# 214 to Suffolk 831 r# 8231
210-213 to Suffolk 832-835
Suffolk 807-814:
807 burned 1/16/86
808-812 no changes
813 r# 8213
814 no changes
Inter County 810-812, 814-815
810 no changes
811 to Coram 8? to CBS 1908
812 no changes
814 to Coram 7? to CBS 1907
815 no changes
Here is what I have on the 81 Flyers:
Suffolk 800-806:
800-802 burn 1/16/86
803-806 to CBS 1955,1954,1956,1957
Inter County 550-557:
no changes
Alert 109-111:
109-111 to ICMC 623,624,622
Blue 112 to Coram 112 to CBS 1950
Coram 113-115 to CBS 1951-1953
Fuoco 108 to CBS 1958
Sunrise 119-120 to Coram 119-120 then CBS 1960,1959
Finally the 82 Gilligs:
ICMC 815-819 r# 558-562, to EBT 558-562
Bornscheurer 5 to EBT 5 to Suffolk 885 r# 8285
Coram 7-13:
7 no changes
8 to Suffolk 842 r# 8242
9-10 to Suffolk 803-804 then CBS 1910-1911
11-13 to Suffolk 843-845 r# 8243-8245
Suffolk 815-820:
815-817 r# 8215-8217
818 burn 1/16/86
819-820 r# 8219-8220
Alert 118-125:
118 to EBT 6 to ICMC 625 to CBS 1914
119-120 to EBT 9,12 to Suffolk 886-887 r# 8286-8287
121-122 to EBT 11,7
123 to EBT 8 to CBS 1913
124 to EBT 10
125 to EBT 13 to CBS 1912
Sunrise 125-127 no changes
Fuoco 215 r# 209 (2nd) to Suffolk 839 r# 8239 |
I'll double check, but all the numbers came out to 35, though I think I didn't know about the one that burned in the 1986 fire @ Suffolk Bus Corp.
I thought the Alert Coach New Flyers were renumbered 623-625, or at least thats what someone said that had almost the same info as you on another site.
Oh and was there actually a Gillig Phantom @ Sunrise numbered 125, I've only been told the only one Gillig Phantom with that number.
Do you happen to know when any of the buses were retired, I think I know when most were except for the Chance RT's |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall
Joined: 29 Nov 2007
Posts: 1757
Location: Suffolk County, NY
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Suffolk Chances, etc. |
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| andrethebusman wrote: | Let me add some additional info on Suffolk's 1982 Chance RT50's that I got from ST many years ago. First of all, there were 37, not 35. This is what I have on their renumberings:
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You were right I got 37 when I recounted all the 1982 Chance RT-50's, I'm not sure how I missed two.
There were also 31 1982 Gillig Phantoms, I never counter Coram Bus 7 and Suffolk Bus Corp # 818 because one was said to be retired early and the other burned respectfully. And adding the #125 that was at Sunrise.
I'll make the fix in a few days |
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andrethebusman
Age: 70
Joined: 27 Dec 2011
Posts: 21
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:12 pm Post subject: More Suffolk |
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Chance:
ICMC 300-303
300 to Hampton 300
301 to Sunrise 301
302-303 no change
Hampton 320-321 no change
EBT 340-341
340 to Hampton 340
341 to Sunrise 341
Suffolk 880-884 r# 8880-8884
Gillig:
EBT 701-702 to CBS 1970-1971
Blue 710 no change
Suffolk 720-733 r# 8720-8733
Sunrise 740-742 no change
ICMC 750-759 no change
ICMC 760 no change
EBT 703-704 to Suffolk 703-704 r# 8703-8704
Suffolk 900-908 r# 9100-9108
EBT 910-916 no change
Sunrise 920 no change
CBS 930-934 no change
ICMC 940-941 no change
Now for some REALLY early stuff: County bought some used fishbowls early on, most gone by 87 or so:
TDH4519
Suffolk 527 orig Utica 507
Suffolk 837 orig ConnCo 2133 wrecked 1987
Suffolk 840 orig Utility Lines 326
Coram 292-294 orig Blue Motor Coach (Louisville)
Suffolk 700 orig Steubenville Bus 539
Sunrise 111 orig Blue Bird Coach (Olean) 165
EBT 104 new to EBT
T6H4521
Suffolk 517 orig Utica 517
Suffolk 528 orig Utica 528 burn 1/16/86
and a few Flxible 45096-6-1's:
Suffolk 828 ex Lynchburg 600 - burned 1/16/86
Suffolk 829 ex Lynchburg 601
Suffolk 836 ex Lynchburg 602
EBT 14 ex Lynchbureg 603
EBT 15 ex Lynchburg 607 to Suffolk 828 (2nd)
THere were probably more used buses involved, but by 1995 this was all that county had record of. |
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andrethebusman
Age: 70
Joined: 27 Dec 2011
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Location: Chicago IL
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:13 pm Post subject: Suffolk |
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| Now I have a question: By any chance does anybody have access to the serials/VIN's for the current fleet?? |
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