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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:21 am    Post subject: From Trolley Buses to Fishbowls Reply with quote

All:

Were the new NYCTA Fishbowls that replaced the Brooklyn trolley buses in 1960 purchased specifically for the conversion of the trolley bus routes to diesel coach, or, were they simply a part of the NYCTA's initial order of the new coaches?

Also, how many years did these "first generation" Fishbowls remain in service?

Thank you in advance for any and all ifo.....

John
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twilight of a veteran......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3124
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "conquerer" which reigned for many years......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?230


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also......were any attempts ever made to preserve one of the old Brooklyn trolley buses?

Sure wish that Branford (now Shore Line) had been able to get at least one....
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Also......were any attempts ever made to preserve one of the old Brooklyn trolley buses?

Sure wish that Branford (now Shore Line) had been able to get at least one....


You're comment about Shoreline's trolley bus inventory is correct. However we have an old T-B #203 from, I believe PTC We recently acquired MBTA 4037, which is a Flyer and has passenger doors on both sides.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for this info!

I was pretty sure that, sadly, none of the old Brooklyn trolley buses were preserved. Sad

Branford (Shore Line) would have been an ideal choice, given its now-stunning collection of electric transit vehicles from the New York area.

Just imagine, if, like the MBTA trolley coaches in Cambridge, Brooklyn's had survived until the present day, even with newer equipment, and one or two of the old coaches kept for fan trips.... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first generation of NYCTA fishbowls from 1959 #'s 1-190 lasted till around '73-'74.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Catfish 44 wrote:
The first generation of NYCTA fishbowls from 1959 #'s 1-190 lasted till around '73-'74.


Thanks......that sounds about average.......still, the way those tanks were built.....properly maintained, I'm sure they could have kept on soldiering on for at least a while longer. Very Happy

Hard to believe that it's now about 14 years since I've last ridden aboard a Fishbowl......I really miss 'em........ Sad

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 1960 NYCTA fishbowls (#501-805) were the second NYCTA fishbowl order. As far I remember, all were assigned to Brooklyn depots including some in the group that replaced the last Brooklyn Division trolley coaches on July 27, 1960. None were assigned when new to Manhattan, Queens, or Staten Island routes. The same day that the TCs were replaced there was a major restructuring of Brooklyn Bus Division garage assingments - West 5th Street Depot closed; and Fresh Pond (brand new) opened.
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