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Mr RT
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 Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:36 am Post subject: Need more input on engine & trans |
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Am trying to find some more detail on the engines & transmissions used by the "private" companies & now MTA Bus:
RTS Engine 6v-92 = 6 cyl, Detroit Diesel, OK but what else ?
RTS Trans V731 RH = Allison, RH indicates the direction of the tails angle,
but weight, torque, etc. ?
RTS CNG engine: L10 ???
RTS CNG Trans: ZF ???
Orion engine: S-50, i.e. Series 50 = Detroit Diesel, 4 cylinder ... plus ... ?
Orion trans: B400 = Allison, streight, less weight then V731 .... ?
Orion CNG engine: John Deer ????
Orion CNG trans w/above same B400 ?
Cruiser engine: S-60 = DD or C13 Catipiller 6 cycl ???
Cruiser trans: B500 = Allison ????
Orion Hybrid engine: ISB = Cummins ???
Orion Hybrid trans: BAE ????? |
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ICMC 1982 Flyer D901A
Age: 38
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Location: East NY, Brooklyn
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:45 am Post subject: |
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RTS Engine Detroit Diesel 6v92 (6 cyl), Series 50 (4cyl)
RTS Trans Allison V730/731, VR-731
RTS CNG engine: Cummins L10G (6-cyl)
RTS CNG Trans: ZF Ecomat 5HP-590
Orion engine: Detroit Diesel Series 50. (4-cyl)
Orion trans: Allison B400R
Orion CNG engine: John Deere (6 cyl) AND Detroit Diesel Series 50 G (4 cyl)
Orion CNG trans: Allison B400R
Cruiser engine: Deroit Diesel Series 60 (6-cyl) and Caterpillar C13 (6 cyl)
Cruiser trans: Allison B500R.
Orion Hybrid engine: ISB = Cummins ISC (6 cyl)....also found on Dodge Ram pickup trucks....how embarrassing.
Orion Hybrid trans: BAE HybriDrive. |
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Mr RT
Joined: 23 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Regarding the RTS Allison Trans: V730, V731, VR-731
Is the VR-731 (V-731 RH) the only angle version ?
Regarging the RTS CNG Trans: ZF Ecomat 5HP 590
Ecomat is the mfg ? What's the 5HP & 590 stand for ?
Regarding the Orion Hybrid Trans: BAE HybriDrive
HybriDrive is the mfg ?
Thanks for the input that you have already provided, it's appreciated ! |
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1988 MCI TC40-102A
Joined: 16 Apr 2007
Posts: 72
Location: Riverdale aka Liberty Lines Express Land
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr RT wrote: | Regarding the RTS Allison Trans: V730, V731, VR-731
Is the VR-731 (V-731 RH) the only angle version ?
Regarging the RTS CNG Trans: ZF Ecomat 5HP 590
Ecomat is the mfg ? What's the 5HP & 590 stand for ?
Regarding the Orion Hybrid Trans: BAE HybriDrive
HybriDrive is the mfg ?
Thanks for the input that you have already provided, it's appreciated ! |
VR = V type tranny with retarder, V = V type tranny with no retarder. I don't know if VR731 and VR731RH are the same though, I don't think they are. RH means the output shaft of the tranny is to the right I think. I don't think the rotation direction has anything to do with the presence of a retarder.
Also the serial number 6V-92TA broken down is 6 cylinders in a V configuration at 92 cubic inches per cylinder with a Turbocharger Application. |
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ICMC 1982 Flyer D901A
Age: 38
Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 60
Location: East NY, Brooklyn
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| 1988 MCI TC40-102A wrote: | | Mr RT wrote: | Regarding the RTS Allison Trans: V730, V731, VR-731
Is the VR-731 (V-731 RH) the only angle version ?
Regarging the RTS CNG Trans: ZF Ecomat 5HP 590
Ecomat is the mfg ? What's the 5HP & 590 stand for ?
Regarding the Orion Hybrid Trans: BAE HybriDrive
HybriDrive is the mfg ?
Thanks for the input that you have already provided, it's appreciated ! |
VR = V type tranny with retarder, V = V type tranny with no retarder. I don't know if VR731 and VR731RH are the same though, I don't think they are. RH means the output shaft of the tranny is to the right I think. I don't think the rotation direction has anything to do with the presence of a retarder.
Also the serial number 6V-92TA broken down is 6 cylinders in a V configuration at 92 cubic inches per cylinder with a Turbocharger Application. |
So what's the serial codings for the 6v53, 6v71 and L, 8v71, 8v92, and the 12v71TT? |
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1988 MCI TC40-102A
Joined: 16 Apr 2007
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Location: Riverdale aka Liberty Lines Express Land
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| ICMC 1982 Flyer D901A wrote: | | 1988 MCI TC40-102A wrote: | | Mr RT wrote: | Regarding the RTS Allison Trans: V730, V731, VR-731
Is the VR-731 (V-731 RH) the only angle version ?
Regarging the RTS CNG Trans: ZF Ecomat 5HP 590
Ecomat is the mfg ? What's the 5HP & 590 stand for ?
Regarding the Orion Hybrid Trans: BAE HybriDrive
HybriDrive is the mfg ?
Thanks for the input that you have already provided, it's appreciated ! |
VR = V type tranny with retarder, V = V type tranny with no retarder. I don't know if VR731 and VR731RH are the same though, I don't think they are. RH means the output shaft of the tranny is to the right I think. I don't think the rotation direction has anything to do with the presence of a retarder.
Also the serial number 6V-92TA broken down is 6 cylinders in a V configuration at 92 cubic inches per cylinder with a Turbocharger Application. |
So what's the serial codings for the 6v53, 6v71 and L, 8v71, 8v92, and the 12v71TT? |
6V-53 = 6cyl, V config, 53 ci per cyl (Series 53)
6V-71 = 6cyl, V, 71 ci per cyl (Series 71)
6L-71 = 6cyl, inline (I believe either L or I can be used in the serial number or it can even just be 6-71)
8V-71 = 8cyl, V, 71 ci per cyl
8V-92 = 8cyl, V, 92 ci per cyl (Series 92)
12V-71TT = 12cyl, V, 71 ci per cyl. I hope TT is not a typo where it should say TA, as I don't know what TT means actually. |
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ICMC 1982 Flyer D901A
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:16 am Post subject: |
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TT is nowhere near a typo.
I've seen a few Youtube vids of those 12v71TTs, I swear, those are monsters.
I can imagine brand new Orion 5s with those huge exhaust pipes and those engines!!!
I doubt if there ever was a 12v92, since it would be severely too loud....LOL |
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Mr RT
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks to all for their input, I appreciate it ! |
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ripta42
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| 1988 MCI TC40-102A wrote: | | 12V-71TT = 12cyl, V, 71 ci per cyl. I hope TT is not a typo where it should say TA, as I don't know what TT means actually. |
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