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« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2006, 02:11:26 PM »

Both of these decals are a disaster.  They're too small and too plain.
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« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2006, 03:49:22 PM »

The same can be said for some of the NYCT depot logos.  There's nothing really special about the logos for Flatbush, Jamaica or Queens Village, the E-N-Y letters on the East New York logo look like a jumbled mess, and the Castleton logo looks like it was drawn by a fifth-grader.  Sorry if my opinion offends anyone here, but that's how they come across to me.   

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« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2006, 06:45:35 PM »

I had thought that the CPD logo's background would be black as it is in the pic near the start of this post, but it's not, it's all white for a background.  It does look nice, but, as said, just a tad too small.
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« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2006, 07:05:12 PM »

I had thought that the CPD logo's background would be black as it is in the pic near the start of this post, but it's not, it's all white for a background.  It does look nice, but, as said, just a tad too small.

How small is it compared to the NYCTA logos. Do they have the quality control bus ticker on it? If not why?
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« Reply #54 on: March 21, 2006, 07:27:47 PM »

I think the new CPD logo is sleek and modern as it appears here, but I'd need to see it on a bus to better judge. The Yonkers Depot logo is shameful Sad

By-the-way, here are many of the depot logos now used (with a few that are no longer used, as well as a few special-use logos, but alas, missing a few as well):
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« Reply #55 on: March 21, 2006, 07:35:19 PM »

Do they have the quality control bus ticker on it? If not why?

They don't have it just because...I don't know.  Some NYCT buses don't sport that Quality Control bus sticker anymore either.
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« Reply #56 on: March 21, 2006, 07:45:23 PM »

I think the new CPD logo is sleek and modern as it appears here, but I'd need to see it on a bus to better judge. The Yonkers Depot logo is shameful Sad

By-the-way, here are many of the depot logos now used (with a few that are no longer used, as well as a few special-use logos, but alas, missing a few as well):

I would have thought Hudson Pier could have had a depot logo that showed a bus by the pier with a ship but it doesn't matter now. The Yonkers logo looks good if you want patriotic but they could have done better (I am just saying). So the only area you can see the CP logo is on the right front area? Is there any on the rear area?
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« Reply #57 on: March 21, 2006, 08:43:59 PM »

They do have them in the rear on the Orion V's...it's in that same panel but much lower.
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« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2006, 10:13:10 PM »

What's interesting to me is that the Yonkers logo (unlike College Point) seems to make reference to its former private owner.

Smiley Andrew

The College Point one does too, to an extent, if you count that little shamrock hidden away in the "P"

Forgive my ignorance, but what is the connection between a shamrock and the Queens Surface Corporation?

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« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2006, 10:25:56 PM »

Here's a shot of the new CPD logo I took from across of 57st and 3rd Ave. QM stops stop.  This logo was on a QM4, a bit whited out, shot was a bit dark, but you can still see it.  Also, surprisingly, the logo was on the left side of the bus on its rear panel.  As I said, it doesn't look too shabby, the blue stripe makes it look swell with its blue pond backdrop.



The more I look at it, the more it seems I like it.  But, that's just me.
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« Reply #60 on: March 22, 2006, 02:14:04 AM »

What's interesting to me is that the Yonkers logo (unlike College Point) seems to make reference to its former private owner.

Smiley Andrew

The College Point one does too, to an extent, if you count that little shamrock hidden away in the "P"

Forgive my ignorance, but what is the connection between a shamrock and the Queens Surface Corporation?

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I believe the original owners of QSC were Irish, and originally used a shamrock as an early QSC logo.
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« Reply #61 on: March 22, 2006, 02:30:04 AM »

Here's a shot of the new CPD logo I took from across of 57st and 3rd Ave. QM stops stop.  This logo was on a QM4, a bit whited out, shot was a bit dark, but you can still see it.  Also, surprisingly, the logo was on the left side of the bus on its rear panel.  As I said, it doesn't look too shabby, the blue stripe makes it look swell with its blue pond backdrop.



The more I look at it, the more it seems I like it.  But, that's just me.

They made a small change when they made the decal for the bus: They smushed up "COLLEGE POINT DEPOT" into the top part of the logo, and added in an "MTA BUS" to the bottom part, both in a thin, "standard" font.
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« Reply #62 on: March 22, 2006, 04:29:06 AM »

I think Yonkers Depot logo looks somewhat like West Farms

That Yonkers Depot logo looks NOTHING like the West Farms one.You must be crazy!Hell looking at the College Point decal,I actually like it.It looks nice.But as it has been said before,they could've made it alot bigger than what it looks.Thats just way too small.
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« Reply #63 on: March 22, 2006, 05:09:29 AM »

You look and tell me if that West Farms decal has any resemblence to the Yonkers one.One things for sure,the West Farms logo looks way better than Yonkers does.As an added bonus I've included pictures of my depot logo collection.Oh yeah and you see how big the WF decal is?Thats how big the Yonkers and College Points should've been as well.
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« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2006, 07:48:44 AM »

Looking at the rest of the NYCT depot logos, I have to say they're pretty bland in terms of design as well. I think what makes them seem better is the extra color on the outer ring. Since CP and Yonkers are mostly white around the outside, it makes them look smaller and less professional. Adding some more color to the existing design would probably class it up a little bit.
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« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2006, 02:19:14 PM »

The way I see it,all of the logo's that NYCT have look pretty good in thier own way.But as it stands right now Yonkers and Mother Clara Hale are THE ugliest stickers currently in exsistance.They look so...UGLY!EWWWWWW!!!
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« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2006, 04:15:34 PM »

What's interesting to me is that the Yonkers logo (unlike College Point) seems to make reference to its former private owner.

Smiley Andrew

The College Point one does too, to an extent, if you count that little shamrock hidden away in the "P"
The third owner of the franchise (first was trolley, second was Salzberg) was Bob Burke in 1988 thru the end (his wife took over after his death).

Forgive my ignorance, but what is the connection between a shamrock and the Queens Surface Corporation?

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« Reply #67 on: March 22, 2006, 05:25:48 PM »

Here's a shot of the new CPD logo I took from across of 57st and 3rd Ave. QM stops stop.  This logo was on a QM4, a bit whited out, shot was a bit dark, but you can still see it.  Also, surprisingly, the logo was on the left side of the bus on its rear panel.  As I said, it doesn't look too shabby, the blue stripe makes it look swell with its blue pond backdrop.



The more I look at it, the more it seems I like it.  But, that's just me.

Now that I see the logo on an actual bus, it looks great. Its nice and clean, not bad at all.
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« Reply #68 on: March 22, 2006, 10:10:43 PM »

The way I see it,all of the logo's that NYCT have look pretty good in thier own way.But as it stands right now Yonkers and Mother Clara Hale are THE ugliest stickers currently in exsistance.They look so...UGLY!EWWWWWW!!!

I disagree on both accounts. The Yonkers Depot sticker may have a bit too much white but its good otherwise and I cannot see how Clara Hale nursing a baby is ugly [she has done many good things in her time], in fact its different from the other depot stickers and is the only one of its kind.
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« Reply #69 on: March 27, 2006, 09:35:48 PM »

There is a better picture of the College Point depot decal and just look below for it! I am providing 2 as 1 is cropped from the real picture and the other 1 is the real picture that I took of it
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« Reply #70 on: March 28, 2006, 01:53:38 AM »

Do they have the quality control bus ticker on it? If not why?

They don't have it just because...I don't know.  Some NYCT buses don't sport that Quality Control bus sticker anymore either.
It seems like the recently repainted buses are now coming back to Stengel with missing  QC stickers. Maybe it is because some of the repaints are approaching 13 years, and the QC is no longer applicable to these buses.
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« Reply #71 on: March 28, 2006, 08:53:48 AM »

What's interesting to me is that the Yonkers logo (unlike College Point) seems to make reference to its former private owner.

Smiley Andrew

The College Point one does too, to an extent, if you count that little shamrock hidden away in the "P"

Forgive my ignorance, but what is the connection between a shamrock and the Queens Surface Corporation?

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I believe the original owners of QSC were Irish, and originally used a shamrock as an early QSC logo.

Majority of the employees were of Irish descent, along with the owners.
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« Reply #72 on: March 28, 2006, 11:04:55 AM »

Now that I've seen this new logo "in action" as opposed to embroidered to a black hat, I have to change my initial opinion to "plain and ugly". Sorry.
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« Reply #73 on: March 29, 2006, 02:19:18 AM »

Plain and ugly?That best describes the Yonkers decal.But the College Point decal still looks really nice from my POV.
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« Reply #74 on: March 29, 2006, 09:55:34 PM »

I've got a set of depot logos posted on the inside wall of my garage. Some are actual decals (bought years ago at the TM) and others are just plain paper discs that were printed from the 'net.
They're a colorful bunch of decorations, and I love 'em.
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« Reply #75 on: March 29, 2006, 10:01:23 PM »

I also have a collection of hats with various depot logos. Some were bought on eBay, and others were homemade by attaching depot logo patches to the front panel of plain navy ball caps. (Since I am "thinning on top", I often wear these to keep my increasingly shiny head warm in the winter.)
I like them all, since they are a nice way to show interest in NYC and in the DOB.
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« Reply #76 on: March 30, 2006, 01:54:52 AM »

I've got a set of depot logos posted on the inside wall of my garage. Some are actual decals (bought years ago at the TM) and others are just plain paper discs that were printed from the 'net.
They're a colorful bunch of decorations, and I love 'em.

The Transit Museum used to sell depot stickers!?Damn!I don't see them doing that now-a-days.I wish they did.I could only imagine how many retro stickers I could get.
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« Reply #77 on: March 30, 2006, 01:59:33 AM »

I got some depot hats too.Usually I get them from someone who goes around the depots selling various transit stuff like hats,bus badge holders,etc.As of now I have MV,JG,126,FP,GH,JA.
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« Reply #78 on: March 30, 2006, 09:15:53 PM »

I wonder if there is any place/outside 'vendor' that sells old MTA depot stickers. I would like to have the old Kingsbridge, Walnut, 5 Av and Coliseum depot ones in particular.
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« Reply #79 on: March 31, 2006, 01:32:27 AM »

There's been someone at MJQ who has been getting the old logos off the internet,printing them out and placing them on one of the tables in the crew room.At first I thought they were real,making me wonder who kept doing it till I realized that most of them were just paper.He/she has placed the old 146St,old Hudson,old Kingsbridge,Walnut,MJQ,West Farms,Coliseium and a few others that I can't remember at the moment.
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« Reply #80 on: April 03, 2006, 12:00:15 AM »

Last Saturday, I've seen more and more Orion 05.501 CNG buses with the depot logos on them but I forgot to look at the MCI D4500 Cruisers from College Point to see if they had their logos slapped on. All the MCI D4500 Cruisers that I saw in Manhattan from Yonkers had their logos on them. I must say, I like the logos but they need to place the "Quality Control" stickers on first because without those...the logos themselves just looks tacky. However, that's just me.



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« Reply #81 on: April 03, 2006, 12:10:54 AM »

I must say, I like the logos but they need to place the "Quality Control" stickers on first because without those...the logos themselves just looks tacky. However, that's just me.



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They aren't even NYCT so I don't think they would follow suit in that sense.

I have yet to see the depot stickers on the Cruisers at College Point.
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« Reply #82 on: April 03, 2006, 04:15:55 AM »

Has anyone noticed that the QC stickers are beginning to disappear from buses? And Please if BK can confirm this one of them has disappeared from a QV nova I cant recall but it was one of the 9500's, I did also notice it missing from one of the Gun Hill Artics also some 5300 number ill remember next time to take down a number.
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« Reply #83 on: April 03, 2006, 10:26:42 AM »

Count in Casey Stengel Depot in the "disappearing Quality Control stickers" category.

I think it's just that they ran out in that specific instance, since I swear I've seen some newly repainted buses sporting the Quality Control sticker.
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« Reply #84 on: April 04, 2006, 12:15:30 AM »

Count in Casey Stengel Depot in the "disappearing Quality Control stickers" category.

I think it's just that they ran out in that specific instance, since I swear I've seen some newly repainted buses sporting the Quality Control sticker.

I tend to agree. Also, there is someone putting stickers on the buses in the wrong place. I saw one the other day and I had to do a double-take. I'll try to get the number for a later post.
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I tend to agree. Also, there is someone putting stickers on the buses in the wrong place. I saw one the other day and I had to do a double-take. I'll try to get the number for a later post.

Are you referring to the bus that has its depot sticker under the second window on the driver's side, as opposed to it being on the rear?

Jamaica and Queens Village also have some buses where the depot sticker is placed in the wrong location.
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« Reply #86 on: April 04, 2006, 11:07:29 PM »

Speaking of logos in funny places BK you should know about 6437 and 6487 how they both have more then the regular 2 logos
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« Reply #87 on: April 14, 2006, 12:39:06 AM »

I tried looking around with the other topics about the submission of logos for the PBL depots and couldn't find anything to help directly.  I know with College Point, they were accepting submissions from everyone, employee or rider, for new MTA logos for the depot last year.

So, are they accepting logo submissions for the remaining PBL depots still?  I ask because I have a somewhat rough sketch of a logo I drew for JFK Depot, and don't know whether I want to continue and finish it up some more if it'll be for naught. 

Anyone know if they're still accepting the logos and if so how I might go about submitting it?  I asked a JFK B/O about it and he said he'll ask for me.  He's since disappeared after I asked him, probably due to the new Spring Pick at the depot.  So, reached a deadend there.

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« Reply #88 on: April 14, 2006, 07:26:21 AM »

Suggestions were submitted by employees of the depot in question.
Management was not invited to participate.
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« Reply #89 on: April 14, 2006, 09:30:21 PM »

I had actually seen a notice not too long ago stating that they were accepting submissions for the other depots except for Eastchester, which wasn't on the list leading me to believe that theirs can be out any day now. I didn't see whether it was limited to employees or open to everyone though.
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Suggestions were submitted by employees of the depot in question.
Management was not invited to participate.
When the TA wanted to have Depot Logos. I think it was around 1976. We at Flushing (Casey Stengel) had Three Logos that where submitted by TA employees. The Logo you have today is the one we picked. "Pipe"
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Suggestions were submitted by employees of the depot in question.
Management was not invited to participate.
When the TA wanted to have Depot Logos. I think it was around 1976. We at Flushing (Casey Stengel) had Three Logos that where submitted by TA employees. The Logo you have today is the one we picked. "Pipe"

Except that the logo said Flushing Depot (not Casey Stengel Depot), and I seriously doubt there was an RTS on it.
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« Reply #92 on: April 16, 2006, 03:56:00 AM »

When the TA wanted to have Depot Logos. I think it was around 1976. We at Flushing (Casey Stengel) had Three Logos that where submitted by TA employees. The Logo you have today is the one we picked. "Pipe"

Management picked the logo, no union members had any imput as to which was selected.  Union employees have few, if any rights at MTA Bus.  The shamrock in the CPD logo is starting to cause a stir though. Something about discrimination, etc.

See Pipe, back in 76 we still had a union, now in 06 we have___________, the same as not having a union.  (Fill in the blank)
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Suggestions were submitted by employees of the depot in question.
Management was not invited to participate.
When the TA wanted to have Depot Logos. I think it was around 1976. We at Flushing (Casey Stengel) had Three Logos that where submitted by TA employees. The Logo you have today is the one we picked. "Pipe"

Except that the logo said Flushing Depot (not Casey Stengel Depot), and I seriously doubt there was an RTS on it.
G1Ravage. Am looking at the logo right now. The one that was on was the Buses. IT DID have a RTS on it. It said Flushing Depot Queens Division. I  don't remember of year the logo started maybe it was in the 1980's. "Pipe"
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« Reply #94 on: April 18, 2006, 02:13:11 AM »

When the TA wanted to have Depot Logos. I think it was around 1976. We at Flushing (Casey Stengel) had Three Logos that where submitted by TA employees. The Logo you have today is the one we picked. "Pipe"

Management picked the logo, no union members had any imput as to which was selected.  Union employees have few, if any rights at MTA Bus.  The shamrock in the CPD logo is starting to cause a stir though. Something about discrimination, etc.

See Pipe, back in 76 we still had a union, now in 06 we have___________, the same as not having a union.  (Fill in the blank)


Discrimination? How the hell can the shamrock on the CP logo be causing discrimination? If anything, it looks to be a good thing on there. QSC used to have in its old days. With that said, with the shamrock there, it retains some of the, I guess you can say, heritage of what was once a great private bus company.

I'm sorry to say it but someone must be smoking something really bad over there to think that a shamrock is discriminating. I don't see how that could be possible.
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« Reply #95 on: April 18, 2006, 10:03:16 AM »

I don't think "discrimination" is the correct terminology. Instead, I would believe that some find the article to be of a religious and/or national-origin and/or culture-associated nature, and therefore, should be removed so as not to appear "exclusive" to one culture over another. Or somesuch.

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« Reply #96 on: April 18, 2006, 09:52:43 PM »

I don't think "discrimination" is the correct terminology. Instead, I would believe that some find the article to be of a religious and/or national-origin and/or culture-associated nature, and therefore, should be removed so as not to appear "exclusive" to one culture over another. Or somesuch.

Personally, I have no opinion on it.

If that's the case, and not to be picky somewhat, but I don't know if it was brought up against the QSC when they were still around, but why didn't they complain to QSC when they had it?  On their logo and emblem, it was on it, and might I point out, *much* larger and prominent than it is now under the MTA.

Either way, it'll stay, it's just about on every CPD Orion V CNG I've noticed.  And I doubt the MTA is gonna scrap them all off and reorder a different set.  Or wait, they just might do a similar move as they did with the PBL's when they took them over, place a small white sticker over the shamrock...
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« Reply #97 on: April 19, 2006, 07:03:02 AM »

Was at La Guardia, JFK & Baisley Park yesterday.
Saw a poster asking for logo designs.
Incl. was copy of College Point & Yonkers logos.

Have also seen the Eastchester logo.
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« Reply #98 on: April 19, 2006, 07:22:34 AM »

Was at La Guardia, JFK & Baisley Park yesterday.
Saw a poster asking for logo designs.
Incl. was copy of College Point & Yonkers logos.

Have also seen the Eastchester logo.


How did the Eastchester logo look like?
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« Reply #99 on: April 20, 2006, 07:08:22 AM »

I thought it was creative.
A big lower case "e" dominates, with two buildings, coop city & flat iron,
plus a nice MCI Cruiser.

I mentioned to the staff member who is coor their acquation that there has been a lot of discussion about the previous two on a bus fan chat site.  She was surprised about that.
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