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« Reply #100 on: January 02, 2007, 10:00:53 AM »

3581 is at LaGuardia Depot this morning,  I'm not sure what it there for but according to the Bus Roster it one of the bus numbers assigned to the depot.
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« Reply #101 on: January 02, 2007, 10:58:01 AM »

Wow! I knew it! Baisley Park probably handles ANY new bus that comes into the MTA Bus system (fareboxes, etc.) and then ship them out to whichever depot that bus is assigned to. Glad to see that LaGuardia is getting NEW equipment.


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« Reply #102 on: January 03, 2007, 12:30:31 AM »

Spotted 3577 at LGA today for training purposes.  2 hours later, I spotted it again at Baisley Park.
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« Reply #103 on: January 03, 2007, 02:03:04 AM »

The drivers and mechanics  are being trained on the Orion VII HEV's as of yesterday and just in time for the winter pick, so delivery of the new buses will probably start soon.
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« Reply #104 on: January 03, 2007, 09:28:42 AM »

Have fun with those buses. You guys deserve them!



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« Reply #105 on: January 03, 2007, 08:53:57 PM »

Here are 2 pics of 3577 at LGA:


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« Reply #106 on: January 04, 2007, 08:30:16 PM »

I guess Far Rock has to do with the '85 GMC's for a little while longer. It's ok though. the mechanics keep them running! I like to call them the "miracle workers"!
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« Reply #107 on: January 05, 2007, 12:32:25 AM »

I guess Far Rock has to do with the '85 GMC's for a little while longer. It's ok though. the mechanics keep them running! I like to call them the "miracle workers"!

Maybe TMCs will get sent their way, along with the 1998 O5s at JFK.
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« Reply #108 on: January 05, 2007, 02:40:16 PM »

Well I finally rode a JFK Hybrid, it was 3571 on the Q 10. It was a great bus (still new bus smell). I love the new interior since it gives more space to the rear rather than the previous batch which cramped it up.  Also, the floor is fluted (like the RTS's), that was definitely a plus for the bus. It was much better than that sandpaper junk at QV (no offense BK Cheesy). I also noticed that there were no beakie boxes, maps, or ads.  The bus wasn't as loud as the QV batch but it was definitely a fast bus. I also saw another hybrid that was on the limited but for some reason it said "Q 10A Limited", is that what they call it now? Anyways the bus was great and I hope it lasts long and its great for the people of Queens but I noticed that people weren't used to the tape and the red buttons. Its funny some people put there arms right over me to try and reach the tape while the red button was right in front of them. Well maybe they will get it soon but overall again it was great.
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« Reply #109 on: January 05, 2007, 03:50:31 PM »

The bus wasn't as loud as the QV batch but it was definitely a fast bus.


That's because the Hybrids at QV and now at MV (well about four left at MCH) are 2004 models. Since that delivery, Orion has toned them down...I think. So they sound better now.



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« Reply #110 on: January 05, 2007, 03:54:54 PM »

The bus wasn't as loud as the QV batch but it was definitely a fast bus.


That's because the Hybrids at QV and now at MV (well about four left at MCH) are 2004 models. Since that delivery, Orion has toned them down...I think. So they sound better now.



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They definitely did lower the noise level - I got on a 2005-2006 Manhattanville HEV and it was quiet. My brother, who is not a transit geek but seems to follow along with me in some aspects, noted that the new builds are quieter and the interior got some new styling. I need to get on one sometime.
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« Reply #111 on: January 06, 2007, 12:19:46 AM »

I guess Far Rock has to do with the '85 GMC's for a little while longer. It's ok though. the mechanics keep them running! I like to call them the "miracle workers"!

Maybe TMCs will get sent their way, along with the 1998 O5s at JFK.

I wouldn't mind that. The TMC's we have already are still in GBL or JBL colors. And i like the D.C. rejects. Green Lines was the only company that received O5's to different specs than the rest of the city.  Im just waiting to see all blue in that depot one day. I dont mind the fleet we keep getting.
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« Reply #112 on: January 08, 2007, 05:46:39 PM »

Can somebody from JFK PLEASE explain this 1?

 I'm just dumbfounded!
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« Reply #113 on: January 08, 2007, 07:51:15 PM »

Actually there at least 2-5 buses that I saw with that. Yuck though, I hope they fix the logo placement.
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« Reply #114 on: January 08, 2007, 10:15:49 PM »

2-5?!  What the hell are they doing over at that depot?  My goodness!!!
They better get their act together!
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« Reply #115 on: January 08, 2007, 11:36:00 PM »

Well I finally rode a JFK Hybrid, it was 3571 on the Q 10. It was a great bus (still new bus smell). I love the new interior since it gives more space to the rear rather than the previous batch which cramped it up.  Also, the floor is fluted (like the RTS's), that was definitely a plus for the bus. It was much better than that sandpaper junk at QV (no offense BK Cheesy). I also noticed that there were no beakie boxes, maps, or ads.  The bus wasn't as loud as the QV batch but it was definitely a fast bus. I also saw another hybrid that was on the limited but for some reason it said "Q 10A Limited", is that what they call it now? Anyways the bus was great and I hope it lasts long and its great for the people of Queens but I noticed that people weren't used to the tape and the red buttons. Its funny some people put there arms right over me to try and reach the tape while the red button was right in front of them. Well maybe they will get it soon but overall again it was great.
I can confirm that the new batch of Hybrids definitely is fast. I haven't ridden one personally but I have seen them fly by down Lefferts and it was definitely fast.

BTW, you mentioned a fluted floor. I rode on a Hybrid on the Q58 on Saturday, and it had fluted floors, but still the older Hybrid rear design. It also had a few other minor differences like a Stop Requested sign further up in the front of the bus, as well as the one in normal Hybrid position. Does anyone know if those are newer and why they are a bit different?
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« Reply #116 on: January 08, 2007, 11:37:31 PM »

I talked with a couple of drivers who said they like the HEVs and said that people usually don't move all the way back anyway. I got to thinking how true this was so I went to Union Turnpike to check out the Q46 and it was bad. There were probably at least 10Rts that were crowded to the door and one person standing in the back with what looked like 5 open seats. The HEV was very similar except for the 1 I saw where there were people standing all the way in the back, that bus was overcrowded. So, basically, I think that you can fit the same number of people, except more standing room in the HEV but nobody moves to the back.
When I take the Q46 in the morning it is often packed to the brim...many times so much that there isn't even standing room in the back of the HEV's...and oftentimes whether people go to the back depends on the driver. Some won't move the bus until people move back.
To the best of my memory, the Q46 morning runs with the HEVs would result in that. Fortunately my stop is before Main Street, so I don't have to deal with the madness of constantly saying "Excuse Me" while squishing my way to the back.
It seems they have fixed the problem somehow now, but I remember earlier in the school year, the Q46 was so packed after the first stop that it didn't even bother stopping by the courthouse...
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« Reply #117 on: January 09, 2007, 10:23:09 AM »

R27/30: The Q58 you were on was likely one of the 3 odd ball FP Orion VII's: 6737, 6738 or 6739.  These are 2006 models and probably be moved to Mother Clara Hale eventually.  It will fit right in to their numbering scheme, but you never know.
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« Reply #118 on: January 09, 2007, 02:37:44 PM »

2-5?!  What the hell are they doing over at that depot?  My goodness!!!
They better get their act together!

Perhaps they couldn't find their ladders...  Or legs.
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« Reply #119 on: January 11, 2007, 01:31:26 AM »

Spotted 3593 pulling into BP this afternoon.  Looked pretty dirty.  Pics will soon follow.
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« Reply #120 on: January 11, 2007, 09:43:29 AM »

Spotted 3593 pulling into BP this afternoon.  Looked pretty dirty.  Pics will soon follow.

It was probably dirty because we had a big snowstorm in Central New York yesterday and these buses typically take I-81 south on the trip from Oriskany.
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« Reply #121 on: January 12, 2007, 12:38:42 AM »

I guess Far Rock has to do with the '85 GMC's for a little while longer. It's ok though. the mechanics keep them running! I like to call them the "miracle workers"!
I don't mind those, I actually prefer them over these hybrids. I will miss the extra seats [2x2 vs. 2x1 + loss of additional seats]. The Q35 is a pretty long ride to be standing most of the way especially Brooklyn to Queens.
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« Reply #122 on: January 12, 2007, 05:07:34 PM »

A few minutes ago I saw 3585 with Far Rockaway logos at the Q8 slot at the 165th Street Bus Terminal.
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« Reply #123 on: January 12, 2007, 06:19:58 PM »

Confirmed sighting of 2 hybrids on the Q35 today 3579 and 3592 [both were signed up with "Flatbush Av"] but I think they were still just testing as they were empty. But I guess this means there are at least these two at Far Rockaway depot as well now. :-(
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« Reply #124 on: January 12, 2007, 06:21:53 PM »

A few minutes ago I saw 3585 with Far Rockaway logos at the Q8 slot at the 165th Street Bus Terminal.
You got to be kidding me? 3575-3599 was to be LGA bound but I guess something happen that LGA is not going to get their 25 til later on
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« Reply #125 on: January 12, 2007, 07:49:15 PM »

I can confirm that. I saw 3581 arriving to FR after a run this afternoon. last night i saw about 5 hybrids sitting in the FR lots. when i get back to rockaway tonight ill be able to get all the #'s and maybe even a few pics.
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« Reply #126 on: January 12, 2007, 10:53:04 PM »

I would guess the 2 I saw today would be among those 5.
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« Reply #127 on: January 12, 2007, 11:23:28 PM »

I would guess the 2 I saw today would be among those 5.

yeah. the 5 i saw was at 5am while passing the depot on the (A) train. and while heading to work tonight i was able to see the 3581's number from the train. i'll be walking by the depot tonight after work to get the definate numbers
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« Reply #128 on: January 13, 2007, 12:53:36 AM »

Excellent thanks. Also if you see any b/o please ask if the Q35's are going to run hybrids soon or not. I still hope not yet as I prefer the RTS's.
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« Reply #129 on: January 13, 2007, 02:39:05 AM »

Since Far Rock is getting their O-7s, I guess that means more TMCs to LGA. Cool.
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« Reply #130 on: January 13, 2007, 10:37:59 AM »

Why are you thinking that more TMCs will head to La Guardia?  As of now, that will not be the case.
There are GMCs at Far Rock, JFK and LGA that need to be replaced.  Since each local depot is starting off with 25 buses, the TMCs will be staying put for now.  As the depots receive more Orion 7s, then PERHAPS TMCs will be transferred here and there.
The Orion 7s are basically replacing all of the remaining GMC RTSs and 2-doored MCI Classics.
BTW The 117Xs that are at LGA-they are not staying there.  From what I heard, they are there only for HSOs.  Then they will be shipped BACK to their original depot.  Hence the reason why I spotted 1172 AND 1173 on the Q11 during this week.
Also on a side note, 9971 is at LGA and has been at LGA for quite some time now.  I'm guessing it is there for the same reason why 1172-1173 were at LGA.
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« Reply #131 on: January 13, 2007, 10:40:12 PM »

Far Rock is up to 9 Orion 7's as of this morning.
3576, 3577, 3578, 3579, 3581, 3585, 3590, 3592 and 3593.
In the mix, on a side note, was TMC 1173.
I guess FR was next to get hybrids. LGA is most likely next to get the new buses.
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« Reply #132 on: January 16, 2007, 03:46:56 PM »

seen on the gowanus xway today were 3580.3583,3597 and 3598 evidently heading to baisley park and then far rockaway. a strange route to take from upstate ny through staten island to queens unless these buses are being first delivered to add at piscataway. anyone know.
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« Reply #133 on: January 16, 2007, 05:24:13 PM »

add 3601, 3603, 3607 on the Staten Island X-PWAY this afternoon head towards VZ Bridge
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« Reply #134 on: January 16, 2007, 06:17:46 PM »

Whoa. Looks like i better keep an eye out for those. Looks like FR's gonna get a lil crowded.
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« Reply #135 on: January 17, 2007, 05:40:41 PM »

So I take it now the O5's are now all going back to being exclusively for the express buses? Or have they started to scrap the remaining GL RTS's?
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« Reply #136 on: January 17, 2007, 11:06:56 PM »

Are any HEVs going to be brought over to College Point? I don't recall seeing anything about that here or on the streets.
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« Reply #137 on: January 18, 2007, 06:38:58 PM »

So I take it now the O5's are now all going back to being exclusively for the express buses? Or have they started to scrap the remaining GL RTS's?
No. All the Express Runs are MCI cruisers and the 4 O5 suburbans. All the other O5 are local service. Expect the '85 RTS' to go bye bye. BTW, the oldest bus you can spot at FR now are the TMC's
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« Reply #138 on: January 18, 2007, 07:13:02 PM »

Are any HEVs going to be brought over to College Point? I don't recall seeing anything about that here or on the streets.

 NO,because they still have their good sets of Orion V cng's..CP is the only depot doesn't have any GM's when they were taking over.
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« Reply #139 on: January 18, 2007, 07:27:02 PM »

Are any HEVs going to be brought over to College Point? I don't recall seeing anything about that here or on the streets.

 NO,because they still have their good sets of Orion V cng's..CP is the only depot doesn't have any GM's when they were taking over.

NO. Why doesn't Spring Creek take their CNG's and reseat them for local service. You should see how the buses look with the LIB seats that smell like trash and don't even fit properly on the bus. At the front there is a loss of a seat on each side and they crammed an extra forward facing row which eliminates all legroom.
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« Reply #140 on: January 19, 2007, 05:18:37 PM »

Are any HEVs going to be brought over to College Point? I don't recall seeing anything about that here or on the streets.

 NO,because they still have their good sets of Orion V cng's..CP is the only depot doesn't have any GM's when they were taking over.

NO. Why doesn't Spring Creek take their CNG's and reseat them for local service. You should see how the buses look with the LIB seats that smell like trash and don't even fit properly on the bus. At the front there is a loss of a seat on each side and they crammed an extra forward facing row which eliminates all legroom.

I agree with you an it really should be 2x1 seating. Also the reason for the smell is that these seats were left outside through elements which cause the smell.
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« Reply #141 on: January 19, 2007, 07:21:01 PM »

So I take it now the O5's are now all going back to being exclusively for the express buses? Or have they started to scrap the remaining GL RTS's?
No. All the Express Runs are MCI cruisers and the 4 O5 suburbans. All the other O5 are local service. Expect the '85 RTS' to go bye bye. BTW, the oldest bus you can spot at FR now are the TMC's
My mistake on this post. I spotted 6 1985 RTS' today in the FR depot. 1 just came back at that time from a run. The others look like they were sitting in the lot all day. GMC's are still there, but don't expect them to see much service in the coming weeks.
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« Reply #142 on: January 20, 2007, 12:18:57 AM »

Yeah in a 15 min span I saw at least 2 of 3 Q35's where hybrids and the other being a 53xx RTS.
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« Reply #143 on: January 20, 2007, 12:31:05 AM »

Yeah in a 15 min span I saw at least 2 of 3 Q35's where hybrids and the other being a 53xx RTS.

A #53xx RTS?  Wouldn't that make that bus a Nova RTS?  It might have been a #58xx RTS instead instead.
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« Reply #144 on: January 20, 2007, 01:32:38 AM »

A #53xx RTS?  Wouldn't that make that bus a Nova RTS?



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So I take it now the O5's are now all going back to being exclusively for the express buses? Or have they started to scrap the remaining GL RTS's?
No. All the Express Runs are MCI cruisers and the 4 O5 suburbans. All the other O5 are local service. Expect the '85 RTS' to go bye bye. BTW, the oldest bus you can spot at FR now are the TMC's
My mistake on this post. I spotted 6 1985 RTS' today in the FR depot. 1 just came back at that time from a run. The others look like they were sitting in the lot all day. GMC's are still there, but don't expect them to see much service in the coming weeks.

 I had an ex-GBL GMC's yesterday on the Q 35.
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« Reply #146 on: January 20, 2007, 11:19:58 PM »

This week I'm planning on having my first ever 'bus day' when I will attempt to get on some JFK 07 HEVs. I'll post the numbers if and when I complete my 'task'.
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« Reply #147 on: January 26, 2007, 01:34:12 PM »

Today at about 12pm I was on Hoyt St. right after doing some repairs to the rover. As I waited at the light at 31st street I looked in my  driver's side rear view and saw 2 HEV's with orange signs coming of the Triborough and figured hey why isn't the M60 exiting the highway. I then saw a third bus in the mirror. As I waited at the light they all passed me. When I got on the GCP I had to speed to catch up to them. They were hybrid no.'s 3584,3586 and 3587. All were filthy and signed with run numbers in the 570's.
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« Reply #148 on: January 26, 2007, 02:52:10 PM »

Today at about 12pm I was on Hoyt St. right after doing some repairs to the rover. As I waited at the light at 31st street I looked in my  driver's side rear view and saw 2 HEV's with orange signs coming of the Triborough and figured hey why isn't the M60 exiting the highway. I then saw a third bus in the mirror. As I waited at the light they all passed me. When I got on the GCP I had to speed to catch up to them. They were hybrid no.'s 3584,3586 and 3587. All were filthy and signed with run numbers in the 570's.
I think I spotted those buses on the Triborough Bridge today. Three buses traveling close together. They were headed east on the Bridge, but I couldn't figure out where they were going.
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« Reply #149 on: January 26, 2007, 08:31:19 PM »

Today at about 12pm I was on Hoyt St. right after doing some repairs to the rover. As I waited at the light at 31st street I looked in my  driver's side rear view and saw 2 HEV's with orange signs coming of the Triborough and figured hey why isn't the M60 exiting the highway. I then saw a third bus in the mirror. As I waited at the light they all passed me. When I got on the GCP I had to speed to catch up to them. They were hybrid no.'s 3584,3586 and 3587. All were filthy and signed with run numbers in the 570's.
I think I spotted those buses on the Triborough Bridge today. Three buses traveling close together. They were headed east on the Bridge, but I couldn't figure out where they were going.
I think they're going to FR. Those are numbers that are missing down here.
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