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« Reply #200 on: July 14, 2006, 02:25:49 PM »

I was just informed that 5990 does NOT have the computer sign I thought it did have a computer sign. However 1174 still has its computer sign.
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« Reply #201 on: August 01, 2006, 05:02:39 PM »

The 1100 series TMC RTS's that are repainted are now starting to show up at JFK. I saw and rode 1173 on the Q10 this morning around 9 AM. I think it still has the Baisley Park rollsign as the rollsign was all white and had a paper sign. Pic is below
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« Reply #202 on: August 01, 2006, 10:21:12 PM »

There were a few Baisley Park RTSs at JFK today including the repainted and the Repowers, I think there were about 5 repowers at JFK today.
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« Reply #203 on: August 02, 2006, 01:53:11 AM »

HMMM well LGA needs buses now because they arew starting to scrap the Ex Jamaica GMCs 1112 1200 1138 1146 to name a few. So maybe some of those 1100s could wind up at LGA?
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« Reply #204 on: August 02, 2006, 02:15:56 AM »

The 1100 series TMC RTS's that are repainted are now starting to show up at JFK. I saw and rode 1173 on the Q10 this morning around 9 AM. I think it still has the Baisley Park rollsign as the rollsign was all white and had a paper sign. Pic is below
Five buses were sent to JFK today, however they are loaners and should be coming back to Baisley Park.
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« Reply #205 on: August 02, 2006, 05:03:28 PM »

Which 5 buses were transfered and which 5 repowerrs were they? Inqurining minds want to know. LGA is still short and shorter on buses lets forget about JFK.
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« Reply #206 on: August 03, 2006, 02:22:18 AM »

Which 5 buses were transfered and which 5 repowerrs were they? Inqurining minds want to know. LGA is still short and shorter on buses lets forget about JFK.
I was informed today that the rest of the 1993 Jamaica Bus TMCs will be heading to JFK on Friday.  All of the loaned Jamaica Bus TMCs will return for a farebox swap and the Repowers of course will return to Basiley Park.  Thats the end of the brownies at Baisley Park except for the Classics.  A few of the loaned buses that I can remember off hand are 8101,8340,1173 and 5989.
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« Reply #207 on: August 03, 2006, 11:00:03 AM »

Which 5 buses were transfered and which 5 repowerrs were they? Inqurining minds want to know. LGA is still short and shorter on buses lets forget about JFK.
I was informed today that the rest of the 1993 Jamaica Bus TMCs will be heading to JFK on Friday.  All of the loaned Jamaica Bus TMCs will return for a farebox swap and the Repowers of course will return to Basiley Park.  Thats the end of the brownies at Baisley Park except for the Classics.  A few of the loaned buses that I can remember off hand are 8101,8340,1173 and 5989.

So your depot will now look like an actual "NYCTA" depot. Nothing but blue and white...except for those Classics.


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« Reply #208 on: August 03, 2006, 11:56:38 AM »

One would have to think that 1111 1113 1115-1116 1118 1125 1128-1129 should head on over to LGA if JFK is receiving the rest of the TMCs from BP. 1124 and 1134 started at JFK and they were later trasferred to LGA.  Why not the others?   However, from what I see,  I doubt that will happen.
Maybe TCC Senior guy can fill us in on why LGA has not received any more buses? 
FYI 9768 was the last bus LGA received.
The only other reason that I can think of on why LGA has not received any more buses is because of the space.  Remember when LGA was Triboro Coach Corp when the buses were parked all along 23 Ave?
From what I see, the MTA does not want that to happen again as the buses are now parked all over 85 St.
I've passed by that garage late at night and that street is mobbed with buses on both sides.  If you have room to drive up and down that street, you're lucky.
I'm guessing 5992 is at JFK too?
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« Reply #209 on: August 03, 2006, 12:55:09 PM »

I was informed today that the rest of the 1993 Jamaica Bus TMCs will be heading to JFK on Friday.  All of the loaned Jamaica Bus TMCs will return for a farebox swap and the Repowers of course will return to Basiley Park.  Thats the end of the brownies at Baisley Park except for the Classics.  A few of the loaned buses that I can remember off hand are 8101,8340,1173 and 5989.
So that means 1173 is staying at JFK now or it's still returning back to Basiley Park? And why the fareboxes need to be switched?
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« Reply #210 on: August 03, 2006, 02:55:43 PM »

I was informed today that the rest of the 1993 Jamaica Bus TMCs will be heading to JFK on Friday.  All of the loaned Jamaica Bus TMCs will return for a farebox swap and the Repowers of course will return to Basiley Park.  Thats the end of the brownies at Baisley Park except for the Classics.  A few of the loaned buses that I can remember off hand are 8101,8340,1173 and 5989.
So that means 1173 is staying at JFK now or it's still returning back to Basiley Park? And why the fareboxes need to be switched?
1173 will return to get its fare box taken out.  We need the fare boxes to put them into the Repowers.
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« Reply #211 on: August 03, 2006, 05:02:06 PM »

So after that 1173 will stay at JFK for good?
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« Reply #212 on: August 03, 2006, 05:09:22 PM »

Is there a technical reason why MTA Bus units cannot use New York City Transit fareboxes (which have a GFI bottom instead of a Cubic bottom)?
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« Reply #213 on: August 03, 2006, 06:52:00 PM »

I just spoke to a driver from the LGA depot I will not reveal that persons name however that individual told me that there are 40  DRIVERS NOW waiting for a bus that is RIDICULOUS!!!!!! I just dont get why JFK has to recieve more buses then LGA has? I know JFK has alot more older stuff bus so does LGAwhat ever. I will coment about this later on.
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« Reply #214 on: August 03, 2006, 07:05:48 PM »

As I mentioned in another post, not only is LaGuardia Depot in dire need of additional buses but we are also in dire need of additional drivers. Our extra board is down to about 5 active drivers and that is not enough to cover any and all runs that open up due to illness, personal days. Our contract, or at least the one that we're working under states that the extra board has to be staffed with 10% of the total number of runs. So if we at LaGuardia Depot have 300 runs total for the week, we should have at least 30 b/o's on the extra board. I do believe that this is the primary reason why the Fall Pick has not been signed off by the Union and why it is being held up.
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« Reply #215 on: August 03, 2006, 07:36:06 PM »

I'm confused, what happend to all the buses? Everytime I'm there they're there, and during rush hour there is like 1 bus left, do they just not have the amount of buses at the depot needed? If there are buses missing than how is almost every run being covered? The MTA is doing a good job of not revealing a problem as to a normal person it won't seem like there is a problem. I continue to take the Q33 and Q23 and they all seem to run fine as well as the Q53. Are they picking which lines gets full treatment. I'm at a loss. Hopefully there will be more buses coming in the next few months. As far as drivers, I see plenty of drivers being trained at Baisley, JFK and College Point. I guess they won't put anyone at LGA unless there are more buses.
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« Reply #216 on: August 03, 2006, 09:58:18 PM »

If you look on the 23rd Avenue side of the property, there are several buses that are presumably ready for scrap. Now that alone should not cause a shortage of buses. Drivers are writing up buses for every little thing; kneelers N.G.,  lights out, wheelchair lifts  N.G., no A/C, etc., etc, etc. Last week I was told by one of the dispatchers that buses would not be sent out if the defects written up on them were not fixed. Apparently the MTA has stuck to their word.

On Tuesday we must have had at least 15 drivers awaiting buses yet I saw more then enough buses parked on the 85th street apron. However, if they did not have problems that needed to be addressed beforehand, these driver's would have had the buses necessary to cover the runs. I recall that on Tuesday morning, the starter at Queens Plaza was calling for a Q-39 bus to come around right away to the first stop. I found out later on that there were 5 buses missing from the Q-39 that morning. Reportedly they were 5 buses in a row missing too if you go by the schedule.

That same day we were missing a long split on the Q-29, a split that doesn't go in from it's first half until 12:20 PM. That left the Q-29 with only 2 buses to cover the entire line for about 3 hours. Now at least one, if not both of these buses are going to be late, very late by the start of the 3rd hour. That's exactly what happened and before you knew it, we had these 2 buses at the same end of the line with no coverage at the other end. These things are happening and they shouldn't. For example, why did the line tripper (2951), a run that does 3 shuttle trips and one line trip, go out when that rune should have been kept in and the long split sent out??

As far as why there appears to be normal service on the Q-33 and Q-23 lines, I don't know the answer to that. Remember though that we are at a point in the summer schedule where a lot of people are on vacation. I also don't think that there are too many schools along these two lines that have summer school schedules in place. I recall several years ago that the Q-39 was one of those lines that had a lot of schools in session during the summer. That is probably still the case today. Things may be bad now but wait until summer vacations are over and schools re-open in September. That's when then will get even worse on all LaGuardia Depot lines unless we get the new equipment that has been promised to us.

I have to agree with other posters here that perhaps the MTA should rethink how the first 100 Hybrids are distributed. All of the depots may need additional buses but the problem areas should be addressed first. I think that LaGuardia Depot qualifies as a problem-ed Depot. Hopefully the MTA will address these problems when it comes tme to assign new equipment to the former PBL's.

As far as driver's being trained, I have seen a Training Bus out there but from what I've seen, there are at most, 4 driver's In Training on this bus. We need a lot more Driver's if we are to even come close to meeting the scheduled needs of service everyday at LaGuardia Depot. Since the MTA takeover at LaGuardia Depot, a few drivers have retired and a few others have been let go for one reason or another. These positions have not been filled. Also keep in mind that once we get a contract under MTA Bus, at least another 25 or 30 drivers and starters will retire as well. They all want to retire right now but will not do so until they know exactly what retirement package they will get.
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« Reply #217 on: August 03, 2006, 10:15:22 PM »

Thank you for the explanation TCC Senior man, I agree that the MTA should have distributed the first of the HEVs to Bus Company. I also believe that in time all will improve however given the state that Triboro was in I'm not all surprised. Hopefully when the new equipment comes in LGA will be considered one of the first depots to get them. However it's also possible that the HEVs will go somewhere else and you'll be get the replaced buses until it's your turn. I know how fustrating this can be, the other day I was suppose to fly from BOS to JFK and the plane I was going to fly, in my discretion was unsafe so they had to fly a plane from Maine to Bos and then I could use that plane. I hope that you guys will be patient with the MTA Bus Company as I'm sure it's just as stressful to them but they probably have a mentallity that this is a problem and there is nothing they can do until they get new buses.
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« Reply #218 on: August 04, 2006, 02:34:18 AM »

As I mentioned earlier now its my turn to comment again why is JFK getting all of the otherbusses? This is total BULL!!!! Pardon the french but I mean c mon I dont think LGA needs newer buses just EXTRA buses. Regardless of where they come from if they have buses for scrap then GET THEM OUTTA THERE and make room for the extras!!!! please use common sense!!!! Ok Im done ranting and raving. lol. PS aend some repowers if you have to they cant be that bad......
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« Reply #219 on: August 04, 2006, 10:35:00 AM »

As I mentioned earlier now its my turn to comment again why is JFK getting all of the otherbusses? This is total BULL!!!! Pardon the french but I mean c mon I dont think LGA needs newer buses just EXTRA buses. Regardless of where they come from if they have buses for scrap then GET THEM OUTTA THERE and make room for the extras!!!! please use common sense!!!! Ok Im done ranting and raving. lol. PS aend some repowers if you have to they cant be that bad......


The reason why JFK and Rockaway are getting more buses is because they have more "clunkers" than LaGuardia (which is kind of surprising to me). Now this is NO disrespect to "TCC Senior Man" and his co-workers but LaGuardia has some of their original GMCs...the 7000-7100 series BUT they have more of the ex-Jamaica 1100s and more TMC 9700s than JFK. However, the 4200s and 5800s are being phased out and therefore more buses are being sent down there.

Now here's another reason, Queens residents have complained about pollution in South Queens for YEARS. Come on, who watches the news? I remember before I moved out of Queens (August 1, 1997) that on NY1 News, Queens residents complained about the buses from Green Bus Lines and Jamaica Bus Lines polluting the area. The story mostly focused on South Ozone Park, up and down Rockaway Blvd, pretty much ALL of The Rockaways. No I know that some of you are not going to by that but maybe it COULD have something to do with that.

I mean, come on guys...this is the MTA. "Anything can happen at any time?" I'm sure there's a logical explaination for this.

As for the Hybrids, 27 for LaGuardia, 25 for Baisley Park, 25 for Spring Creek and 23 for JFK/Rockaway. Yeah, the distribution is kind of weird but the 25 Hybrids for Spring Creek is for the B100 and B103. That might change but as we get closer to the deliveries, anything can happen.


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« Reply #220 on: August 04, 2006, 01:48:05 PM »

I have a few theories about this:

I will not be surprised that as more hybrids start rolling in to the accepting depot which for NYCT is Mother Clara Hale there will be a displacement of RTS's and 2 year old HEV's to Manhattanville which means that some TMC's will get displaced.

Meanwhile CS has a bus shortage and some buses on dead row they are in line to be the last accepting depot for the Hybrids coming shortly is rate goes well now at 2 per week I think. This could mean that QV will be sending the rest of thier O5's and guess what they will get the rest of the TMC's from Manhattanville. Then again ENY and Flatbush are also getting some hybrids then my theory will be this will displacement could make up the Maspeth fleet for now.

Here's another theory Castleton is to receive hybrids something may tell me that Yukon will be rejecting thier portion and will go to Castleton. That would free up some coaches and standards meaning O5's maybe to send to CS. Therefore those freed TMC's can either go to junk or go to MTA bus and replace some 4200's at JFK or Rockaway.

I have no idea of what might happen but this fall things could get interesting, especially regarding what bus goes where.
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« Reply #221 on: August 04, 2006, 02:26:08 PM »

If LGA is short on buses, why hasn't the MTA temporarily assigning LGA runs like the Q53 to other depots?
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« Reply #222 on: August 04, 2006, 04:20:15 PM »

oh pulease hahahaha dont make me laugh because they cant I have toagree JFK and far rock do need more buses but when you have missing busses on lines that cant be found oh well.
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« Reply #223 on: August 09, 2006, 02:25:13 AM »

Jamaica608 did the following TMCs go to JFK from BPK? 1178 1179 1181 1183 1189 1190,5989 5992 *5993 *5994  9729 9769 The reason I ask is becausae I know that 1180 and 1187 went to SC. However the *5993 *5994 these 2 may have left LGA these 2 have been missing for a while now. Just asking. Thank You.
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« Reply #224 on: August 11, 2006, 12:40:04 AM »

5994 was on the Q39 today.  5993 has been missing for some time now. 
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« Reply #225 on: August 11, 2006, 06:50:44 AM »

Hey Jamaica608, I recall that you said previously that BP ordered new LED signs for the re powers but decided not to go through, what ever happened with the signs, will they go to other BP units? Thanks
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« Reply #226 on: August 11, 2006, 11:24:29 AM »

The only TMC that had its roll sign switched BACK to a computer sign is Ex Baisley park Ex JBI 3832. TMC 1174 that bus is at JFK the wrong depot It is supposed to be at LGA the right depot!!!!!
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« Reply #227 on: August 13, 2006, 02:22:42 AM »

For those that are interested please be advised that 9714 and 9745 have gone to LGA Funny I thought these 2 were at JFK..........oh and no they are not repainted yet.
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« Reply #228 on: August 14, 2006, 12:31:32 AM »

9753 (another non repainted TMC) I believe is at LGA too.  I don't know if this bus was formerly at JFK.
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« Reply #229 on: August 14, 2006, 02:13:01 AM »

This is how short LGA is I had no last bus again this is the second Sunday night in a row where I had NO LAST BUS this is just beyond amazing.
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« Reply #230 on: August 14, 2006, 03:01:56 AM »

I can agree, I saw the amount of passengers waiting for the Q33. I found that very strange on a Saturday night that the Q33 not have enough coverage, but somethings gotta give. Isnt there a way to place a modified extra trip especially ones that pull in from 74th st. At least the 47 was covered to my surprise.

Maybe, they should start informing thier regular passengers of intermitted delays so at least no one is surprised. I waitied for a Q19A the other night weeknight about 930pm knowing it should be coming it didnt, but I kinda knew what happened so I wasnt too upset about it. The 950 showed up and was on my way home with no worries. But just communicate to those passengers, at least some of them will understand.
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« Reply #231 on: August 14, 2006, 08:47:40 AM »

I don't understand how a transit agency can leave late-night runs uncovered.  Is it a matter of those shifts being the lowest seniority ones and not being picked during a bid if there's a shortage of drivers?
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« Reply #232 on: August 14, 2006, 09:59:46 AM »

For now they should build those lines into other runs. Now they would have those wonderful misc runs like Queens and Staten Island.
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« Reply #233 on: August 30, 2006, 03:11:17 AM »

 I just wanted to let you guys know that 9718 & 9744 are at JFK. and for some reason 8237 is at JFK as well.
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« Reply #234 on: October 02, 2006, 03:21:12 AM »

Here is another Ex Jamaica bus from roll sign to computer sign change for you: I saw this bus this afternoon. by the QC Mall at Woodhaven blvd. MTA Bus # 1181. Ex JBI #3839 now has the computer sign on it in the front.  I dont know about the side sign. The rear sign was blank. If I see any more "changes" I will inform you.
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« Reply #235 on: October 02, 2006, 12:19:03 PM »

Side sign was computerized. 
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« Reply #236 on: October 02, 2006, 10:26:38 PM »

What are these computer signs? Are they regular flipdot signs like the ones on the rest of the TMCs, or are they LED?

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« Reply #237 on: October 02, 2006, 11:49:08 PM »

What are these computer signs? Are they regular flipdot signs like the ones on the rest of the TMCs, or are they LED?

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Flipdots, what they ment to say...
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